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Post by Charity51 on Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:22 am

I have spent several days thinking about the temptation of Jesus. Is there any chance this could have been purely an inward temptation rather than an outward temptation? A meditatative experience? The reason I ask is because the three pinnacles made me think of the conscious, the sub conscious, and the higher mind. Each temptation reaching a little higher into the mind. Also the use of the words peirazo and peirasmos. When used as a verb is it true that they usually signify an inward experience or enticement and when used as a noun an outer experience or enticement? I have a lot more thinking about this yet to do but would appreciate any sharing you might have on the subject. It is an experience that I sense many of us have in common with Jesus. I'm not sure this is under the right subject but I wasn't sure where to ask the question.

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Re: Temptation?

Post by BelzeBob on Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:33 am

Hi!

Inward or outward temptation?

They're the same.

Temptation is temptation. As simple as that. Keep it simple.

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Post by Admin on Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:56 am

I understand that all temptation is from the lower mind (our 'satan'). So yes, Jesus' temptation was definitely an inner experience. We all have to battle with the desires and whims of our mind.

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Post by angelfire on Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:41 am

Admin wrote:I understand that all temptation is from the lower mind (our 'satan'). So yes, Jesus' temptation was definitely an inner experience. We all have to battle with the desires and whims of our mind.


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Yes, I agree. Jesus was being tempted as we all will after we have had the higher experiences. The temptation was to choose
between God and not God. This is very important after the higher experiences, not nearly so before. Remember that in a higher
vibrational state the power is almost instantaneous. (sorry if I spelt that incorrectly).

Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the tree of good and evil, or God and not God. I am assuming here that most folks that view the forum
know that there is only God, and nothing but God, so the choice is between God or illusion. Jesus chose God.





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Post by AYOGI on Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:16 am

angelfire wrote:
Admin wrote:I understand that all temptation is from the lower mind (our 'satan'). So yes, Jesus' temptation was definitely an inner experience. We all have to battle with the desires and whims of our mind.
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Yes, I agree. Jesus was being tempted as we all will after we have had the higher experiences. The temptation was to choose between God and not God. This is very important after the higher experiences, not nearly so before. Remember that in a higher vibrational state the power is almost instantaneous. (sorry if I spelt that incorrectly).

Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the tree of good and evil, or God and not God. I am assuming here that most folks that view the forum know that there is only God, and nothing but God, so the choice is between God or illusion. Jesus chose God.

GOD IS ~ I AM

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Re: Temptation?

Post by angelfire on Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:00 am

AYOGI wrote:
angelfire wrote:
Admin wrote:I understand that all temptation is from the lower mind (our 'satan'). So yes, Jesus' temptation was definitely an inner experience. We all have to battle with the desires and whims of our mind.
PLU Very Happy
Yes, I agree. Jesus was being tempted as we all will after we have had the higher experiences. The temptation was to choose between God and not God. This is very important after the higher experiences, not nearly so before. Remember that in a higher vibrational state the power is almost instantaneous. (sorry if I spelt that incorrectly).

Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the tree of good and evil, or God and not God. I am assuming here that most folks that view the forum know that there is only God, and nothing but God, so the choice is between God or illusion. Jesus chose God.

GOD IS ~ I AM

AYOGI sunny

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Yes indeed, GOD IS - I AM. If this was all we knew about God, it would be enough to take us to paradise.





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Re: Temptation?

Post by BelzeBob on Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:15 am

To paradise?

I think we have to buy a ticket.

(Seriously. Though it's a metaphor, it's a real principle. There is no free ride. And first of all we have to find our way to the station. And then be sure we board the right train.)

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Re: Temptation?

Post by angelfire on Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:01 am

BelzeBob wrote:To paradise?

I think we have to buy a ticket.

(Seriously. Though it's a metaphor, it's a real principle. There is no free ride. And first of all we have to find our way to the station. And then be sure we board the right train.)

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To be in Paradise means "to be in our rightful minds." Seriously, though it's a metaphor, it's a real principle. -------NO KIDDING.

The Way of Christ is the Way of Love, there is no other way to övercoming the world of false beliefs. You can believe all the right things, have an intellectual understanding of the Way, but without love, it will never come forth. Love is the dominating vibration of all that God created.

Christ left us a road map to follow, but he did say "Few there be that find it"

You are right about one thing, there is no free ride. The World of God's creation is foolproof. There are no exemptions.

When we know everything and have had all the initiations, the hardest and longest part of our work is still to come, now how would I know that?.


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Re: Temptation?

Post by Admin on Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:49 am

angelfire wrote:When we know everything and have had all the initiations, the hardest and longest part of our work is still to come, now how would I know that?.

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Yes, indeed, you are right about our path only starting after we have recieved the true mystic Spiritual initiation. Before this, we can only wander this way and that, searching for the Truth.

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Re: Temptation?

Post by BelzeBob on Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:46 am

small correction: BelzeBob didn't write that...
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Post by Admin on Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:07 pm

BelzeBob wrote:small correction: BelzeBob didn't write that...

Sorry, sorry, and again sorry.drunken My mistake - I forgot to errase your name from the quote. I've corrected it now.Embarassed

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Re: Temptation?

Post by Chukuma on Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:38 pm

Hello, all. I agree that the temptation is of the lower mind. My question is, if this happened in the mind of Jesus, who was the eyewitness that wrote the story?



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Re: Temptation?

Post by BelzeBob on Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:10 pm

Good question. Maybe Jesus told this story to his disciples?
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Re: Temptation?

Post by Apakhana on Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:07 pm

As Samael Aun Weor put it, "Temptation is fire. Triumph over temptation is light."

Without the master Lucifer who delivers us the temptation test itself, we can not grow. it forces us to deal with our lower mind, the natural instictive egos we are trying to eliminate while treading the path to liberation of our essence.
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Re: Temptation?

Post by Cha_Chynga on Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:16 am

angelfire wrote:
AYOGI wrote:
angelfire wrote:
Admin wrote:I understand that all temptation is from the lower mind (our 'satan'). So yes, Jesus' temptation was definitely an inner experience. We all have to battle with the desires and whims of our mind.
PLU Very Happy
Yes, I agree. Jesus was being tempted as we all will after we have had the higher experiences. The temptation was to choose between God and not God. This is very important after the higher experiences, not nearly so before. Remember that in a higher vibrational state the power is almost instantaneous. (sorry if I spelt that incorrectly).

Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the tree of good and evil, or God and not God. I am assuming here that most folks that view the forum know that there is only God, and nothing but God, so the choice is between God or illusion. Jesus chose God.

GOD IS ~ I AM

AYOGI sunny

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Yes indeed, GOD IS - I AM. If this was all we knew about God, it would be enough to take us to paradise.





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There is only one way to the Father God - Christ. You know the drill.

That's the bottom line. All else fails. You can hate me for my views, but the bible clearly says.

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Re: Temptation?

Post by everything&nothing on Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:19 am

Chachynga: "There is only one way to the Father God - Christ. You know the drill.

That's the bottom line. All else fails. You can hate me for my views, but the bible clearly says."

What exactlly is the drill sir? and no I can't hate you.

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Re: Temptation?

Post by Vivamis123 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:09 pm

I too have spent much thought on the temptations Jesus went through and here are my thoughts:

I think that first that the temptations were thoughts that Jesus had after realizing his true Self. The first temptation is to believe that we could add something to that which God has already created. The second temptation is to believe that there is a power outside of God. And the third temptation is to believe that something other than God could fulfill the emptiness we feel inside.

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj says I am nothing, I have nothing and I can do nothing....now that's being humbled : )

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It's not so simple

Post by Aquila on Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:45 am

BelzeBob wrote:Hi!

Inward or outward temptation?

They're the same.

Temptation is temptation. As simple as that. Keep it simple.

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Spiritual ego is the last thing to fall, and it's the high souls--high but quite Realized--who really have to beware of this, as they are the ones with the high attainment.

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