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Post by GlorytoGod Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:07 am

So whats a good method of meditation for beginners ?

or does not really matter as long as you still the mind ?

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Post by Admin Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:03 am

GlorytoGod wrote:So whats a good method of meditation for beginners ?

or does not really matter as long as you still the mind ?

Meditation is extremely important if one wishes to rise to the ultimate point, and it is therefore imperative that one finds a suitable Spiritual Teacher/Master. The specific techniques used in meditation are ancient and sacred, and should not be discussed in public for obvious reasons.

If one is truly sincere in their search for Truth, a suitable Teacher will eventually be found - but patience and perseverance is necessary.

In the meantime, just concentrating on one's breath while sitting still with one's eyes closed will help a great deal.

PLU ~ Bob sunny
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Post by GlorytoGod Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:10 pm

Admin wrote:

Meditation is extremely important if one wishes to rise to the ultimate point, and it is therefore imperative that one finds a suitable Spiritual Teacher/Master. The specific techniques used in meditation are ancient and sacred, and should not be discussed in public for obvious reasons.

PLU ~ Bob sunny


what reasons would those be Bob ?

they are not obvious to me.

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Post by Admin Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:24 am

GlorytoGod wrote:
Admin wrote:

Meditation is extremely important if one wishes to rise to the ultimate point, and it is therefore imperative that one finds a suitable Spiritual Teacher/Master. The specific techniques used in meditation are ancient and sacred, and should not be discussed in public for obvious reasons.

PLU ~ Bob sunny


what reasons would those be Bob ?

they are not obvious to me.

The reasons for not disclosing/discussing the Sacred techniques is precisely because they are SACRED, and not to be revealed to 'outsiders' (i.e. the 'common' masses). (see e.g. Matthew 7:6 & Mark 4:11).

Please do not interpret this in an elitist fashion - it is simply that the techniques will only be safe with those who are sincere and genuine SEEKERS of TRUTH.

PLU ~ Bob sunny
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Post by StarSeeker Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:49 am

Are there any books or things that I can read or watch that might provide more insight into these sacred techniques? Until I can find a teacher I would very much like to learn everything I can before we have a session.
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Post by Admin Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:40 am

StarSeeker wrote:Are there any books or things that I can read or watch that might provide more insight into these sacred techniques? Until I can find a teacher I would very much like to learn everything I can before we have a session.

Try reading my book - "CHURCH OF GOD? OR THE TEMPLES OF SATAN" - it explains things in a very simple and straightforward way. Smile sunny
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Post by seekerjuan Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:27 pm

StarSeeker wrote:Are there any books or things that I can read or watch that might provide more insight into these sacred techniques? Until I can find a teacher I would very much like to learn everything I can before we have a session.

Hi Starseeker and welcome!

I've recently come across a group near my home that meets every week for group meditation. All of the lessons and meditation sessions are free. The teachers are all very experienced with techniques based on the traditions of Hindu and Buddhism as taught by Paramahamsa Nithyananda. The basic technique is available for free at http://www.lifeblissmeditation.org/ . If you attend the free weekly session, there will be a guide to help you. They also respond to all my question by email.

They sell a CD at the website for a fairly small price, but if you simply make a MP3 of your own with five - 7 minute segments of relaxing music and some tone to tell you to proceed to the next step, this is not necessary. All you need to know is explained on the website.

There is also a selection of guided meditation techniques based on the Shiva Sutras at https://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C382D1CE98AEFF4C. These include the Omkara, Hamsa, Idagala, Pingala and Sushumna Nadis techniques and many more. You can find many background vids at https://www.youtube.com/LifeBlissFoundation .

My first experience with the group meditation was inspiring and quite intense. Of course, not the same as my original experience documented else where, but I definitely felt a benefit from these techniques. So far the group sessions have been much more intense than doing this alone, but that may just be my frame of mind.

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Post by sophia Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:43 pm

there are so many meditations and forms of meditation. one of the aspects is to find the type that resonates with you and your mind and vibrations.

take a look at bob's book plus take a look at some of these types. if any or all of them resonate deep within you then do more research on that particular method...

http://www.freemeditations.com/buddhist_breath_meditation.html

once again just my thoughts on this
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Post by seekerjuan Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:02 am

Sophia, you make and excellent point.

Another great source is your public library. A quick search of my local library yielded over 200 books and CD's on the topic.

You can also google around for herbs and pujas (rituals of gratitude) that help meditation. I've found that a ritual involving making tea with chamomile and other relaxing herbs, helps settle my mind and center my thoughts to prepare me for my evening meditation session.

I asked one of my teachers about all of the techniques. She told me what Sophia explained so well:
Ultimately, doing the meditations as they are, researching for yourself which
one resonates best with you is the key. Totally having fun with them:)
Of course, a Spiritual Master could help shortcut the search, but in your search for what is right for you, you may find the Master you seek. Just maintain a positive, innocent and child like attitude. In the end, you are simply trying to realize who you already are and forget the person you have been taught to believe you are.

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Post by seekerjuan Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:22 am

Another free online meditation course and forum to follow up with questions and support.

http://meditation.org.au/index.asp

If you are looking for a meditation group near you or want to start one check out:

http://meditation.meetup.com/

Jaun

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Post by seekerjuan Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:16 am

More meditation techniques from thousands of years ago:


  1. Radiant one, this experience may dawn between two breaths. After breath comes in (down) and just before turning up (out) - the beneficence.
  2. Or, whenever in-breath and out-breath fuse, at this instant touch the energy-less, energy-filled center.
  3. As breath turns from down to up, and again as breath curves from up to down - through both these turns, realize.
  4. Or, when breath is all out (up) and stopped of itself, or all in (down) and stopped - in such universal pause, one's small self vanishes. This is difficult only for the impure.
  5. Attention between eyebrows, let mind be before thought. Let form fill with breath essence to the top of the head and there shower as light.
  6. When in worldly activity, keep attention between two breaths, and so practicing, in a few days be born anew.
  7. With intangible breath in center of forehead, as this reaches heart at the moment of sleep, have direction over dreams and over death itself.
  8. With utmost devotion, center on the two junctions of breath and know the knower.
  9. Lie down as dead. Enraged in wrath, stay so. Or stare without moving an eyelash. Or suck something and become the sucking.
  10. While being caressed, Sweet Princess, enter the caress as everlasting life.
  11. Stop the doors of the senses while feeling the creeping of an ant. Then.
  12. When on a bed or a seat, let yourself become weightless, beyond mind.
  13. Or, imagine the five-colored circles of the peacock tail to be your five senses in illimitable space. Now let the beauty melt within. Similarly, at any point in space or on a wall - until the point dissolves. Then your wish for another comes true.
  14. Place your whole attention in the nerve, delicate as a lotus thread, in the center of your spinal column. In such be transformed.
  15. Closing the seven openings of the head with your hands, a space between your eyes becomes all inclusive.
  16. Blessed one, as senses are absorbed in the heart, reach the center of the lotus.
  17. Unminding mind, keep in the middle - until.
  18. Look lovingly at an object. Do not go on to another object. Here in the middle of the object - the blessing.
  19. Without support for feet or hands, sit only on the buttocks. Suddenly, the centering.
  20. In a moving vehicle, by rhythmically swaying, experience. Or in a still vehicle, by letting yourself swing in slowing invisible circles.
  21. Pierce some part of your nectar-filled form with a pin, and gently enter the piercing and attain to the inner purity.
  22. Let attention be at a place where you are seeing some past happening, and even your form, having lost its present characteristics, is transformed.
  23. Feel an object before you. Feel the absence of all other objects but this one. Then, leaving aside the object-feeling and the subject-feeling, realize.
  24. When a mood against someone or for someone arises, do not place it on the person in question, but remain centered.
  25. Just as you have the impulse to do something, stop.
  26. When some desire comes, consider it. Then, suddenly, quit it.
  27. Roam about until exhausted and then, dropping to the ground, in this dropping be whole.
  28. Suppose you are gradually being deprived of strength or of knowledge. At the instant of deprivation, transcend.
  29. Devotion frees.
  30. Eyes closed, see your inner being in detail. Thus see your true nature.
  31. Look upon a bowl without seeing the sides or the material. In a few moments become aware.
  32. See as if for the first time a beauteous person or an ordinary object.
  33. Simply by looking into the blue sky beyond clouds, the serenity.
  34. Listen while the ultimate mystical teaching is imparted. Eyes still, without blinking, at once be absolutely free.
  35. At the edge of a deep well look steadily into its depths until - the wondrousness.
  36. Look upon some object, then slowly withdraw your though from it, then slowly withdraw your mind from it. Then.
  37. Devi, imagine the Sanskrit letters in these honey-filled foci of awareness, first as letters, then more subtly as sounds, then as most subtle feeling. Then, leaving them aside, be free.
  38. Bathe in the center of sound, as in the continuous sound of waterfall. Or, by putting the fingers in the ears, hear the sound of sounds.
  39. Intone a sound, as AUM, slowly. As sound enters soundfulness, so do you.
  40. In the beginning and gradual refinement of the sound of any letter, awake.
  41. While listening to stringed instruments, hear their omnipresent central sound; thus omnipresence.
  42. Intone a sound audibly, then less and less audibly as feeling deepens into this silent harmony.
  43. With mouth slightly open, keep mind in the middle of the tongue. Or, as breath comes silently in, feel the sound 'HH'.
  44. Center on the sound 'AUM' without any 'A' or 'M'.
  45. Silently intone a word ending in 'AH'. Then in the 'HH', effortlessly, the spontaneity.
  46. Stopping ears by pressing and the rectum by contracting, enter the sound.
  47. Enter the sound of your name and, through this sound, all sounds.
  48. At the start of sexual union keep attentive on the firs in the beginning, and so continuing, avoid the embers at the end.
  49. When in such embrace your senses are shaken as leaves, enter this shaking.
  50. Even remembering union, without the embrace, transformation.
  51. On joyously seeing a long-absent friend, permeate this joy.
  52. When eating or drinking, become the taste of food or drink, and be filled.
  53. O lotus-eyed one, sweet of touch, when singing, seeing, tasting, be aware that you are and discover the ever-living.
  54. Wherever satisfaction is found, in whatever act, actualize this.
  55. At the point of sleep, when the sleep has not yet come and the external wakefulness vanishes, at this point Being is revealed.
  56. Illusions deceive, colors circumscribe, even divisibles are indivisible.
  57. In moods of extreme desire, be undisturbed.
  58. This so-called universe appears as a juggling, a picture show. To be happy, look upon it so.
  59. O beloved, put attention neither on pleasure nor on pain, but between these.
  60. Objects and desires exist in me as in others. So accepting, let them be transformed.
  61. As waves come with water and flames with fire, so the Universal waves with us.
  62. Wherever you mind is wandering, internally or externally, at this very place, this.
  63. When vividly aware through some particular sense, keep in the awareness.
  64. At the start of sneezing, during fright, in anxiety, above a chasm, flying in battle, in extreme curiosity, at the beginning of hunger, at the end of hunger, be uninterruptedly aware.
  65. The purity of other teachings is an impurity to us. In reality, know nothing as pure or impure.
  66. Be the unsame same to friend as to stranger, in honor and dishonor.
  67. Here is the sphere of change, change, change. Through change consume change.
  68. As a hen mothers her chicks, mother particular knowings, particular doings, in reality.
  69. Since, in truth, bondage and freedom are relative, these words are only for those terrified with the universe. This universe is a reflection of our minds. As you see many suns in water from one sun, so see bondage and liberation.
  70. Consider your essence as light rays from center to center up the vertebrae, and so rises "livingness" in you.
  71. Or in the spaces between, feel this as lightning.
  72. Feel the cosmos as a translucent ever-living presence.
  73. In summer when you see the whole sky endlessly clear, enter such clarity.
  74. Shakti, see all space as if already absorbed in your own head in the brilliance.
  75. Waking, sleeping, dreaming, know you as light.
  76. In rain during a black night, enter that blackness as the form of forms.
  77. When a moonless rainy night is not present, close eyes and find blackness before you. Opening eyes, see blackness. So faults disappear forever.
  78. Wherever your attention alights, at this very point, experience.
  79. Focus on fire rising through your form from the toes up until the body burns to ashes but not you.
  80. Meditate on the make-believe world as burning to ashes, and become being above human.
  81. As, subjectively, letters flow into words and words into sentences, and as, objectively, circles flow into worlds and worlds into principles, find these at last converging in our being.
  82. Feel: my thought, I-ness, internal organs - me.
  83. Before desire and before knowing, how can I say I am? Consider. Dissolve in the beauty.
  84. Toss attachment for body aside, realizing I am everywhere. One who is everywhere is joyous.
  85. Thinking no thing will limited-self unlimit.
  86. Suppose you contemplate something beyond perception, beyond grasping, beyond not being - you.
  87. I am existing. This is mine. This is this. O beloved, even in such know illimitably.
  88. Each thing is perceived through knowing. The self shines in space through knowing. Perceive one being as knower and known.
  89. Beloved, at this moment let mind, knowing, breath, form, be included.
  90. Touching eyeballs as a feather, lightness between them opens into heart and there permeates the cosmos.
  91. Kind Devi, enter etheric presence pervading far above and below your form.
  92. Put mindstuff in such inexpressible fineness above, below and in your heart.
  93. Consider any area of your present form as limitlessly spacious.
  94. Feel your substance, bones, flesh, blood, saturated with the cosmic essence.
  95. Feel the fine qualities of creativity permeating your breasts and assuming delicate configurations.
  96. Abide in some space endlessly spacious, clear of trees, hills, habitations. Thence comes the end of mind pressures.
  97. Consider the plenum to be your own body of bliss.
  98. In any easy position gradually pervade an area between the armpits into great peace.
  99. Feel yourself as pervading all directions, far, near.
  100. The appreciation of objects and subjects is the same for an enlightened as for an unenlightened person. The former has one greatness: he remains lost in the subjective mood, not lost in things.
  101. Believe omniscient, omnipotent, pervading.
  102. Imagine spirit simultaneously within and around you until the entire universe spiritualizes.
  103. With your entire consciousness in the very start of desire, of knowing, know.
  104. O Shakti, each particular perception is limited, disappearing in omnipotence.
  105. In truth forms are inseparate. Inseparate are omnipresent being and your own form. Realize each as made of this consciousness.
  106. Feel the consciousness of each person as your own consciousness. So, leaving aside concern for self, become each being.
  107. This consciousness exists as each being, and nothing else exists.
  108. This consciousness is the spirit of guidance of each one. Be this one.
  109. Suppose this passive form to be an empty room with walls of skin - empty.
  110. Gracious one, play. The universe is an empty shell wherein your mind frolics infinitely.
  111. Sweet-hearted one, meditate on knowing and not-knowing, exiting and not-existing. Then leave both aside that you may be.
  112. Enter space, supportless, eternal still.

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