WHAT IS ENLIGHTENMENT ?

by Admin Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:00 am

Here are some views about "what is Enlightenment" from various gurus:

Sri Bhagavan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiRIndmiKyU

Yogiraj Siddhanath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M8X1xD9WCU&feature=related

DattatreyaSivaBaba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3hM6LFzWlU&feature=related

What are your thoughts on these?

PLU ~ Bob Very Happy

by Helios Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:36 pm

Admin wrote:Sri Bhagavan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiRIndmiKyU

This kind of enlightenment also exists in Buddhism, although it is said that it is one of several kinds of enlightenment in the Mahayana tradition. In this kind of enlightenment, the causes of suffering have been eliminated, but there are still subtle stains on the mind. The mind still grasps at things as existing in the way they appear to exist.

Admin wrote:Yogiraj Siddhanath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M8X1xD9WCU

I like this guy. His first piece of advice can't be stressed enough. There are all kinds of charlatans out there, and he is correct in warning others about them, saying that only you can enlighten yourself. No one else can do it for you. What he has to say is, in my opinion, very reasonable.

Admin wrote:DattatreyaSivaBaba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3hM6LFzWlU

I'm wary about this one. Being obsessed with turning your body into light seems misguided and to miss the point of spiritual practice. The fact that he talked about this "previous incarnations" as though he were friend with them, and had telephone chats with them all the time furthered by distrust. The body is the body, it is an impermanent thing, it should not be clung to or avoided - and this guy seems to be doing both at the same time.

by Vivamis123 Fri May 30, 2008 12:25 am

My thoughts are...many Masters ...many paths....one goal....one result : )

As many Masters as we will find...we will find an equal amount of paths. I have noticed that some Masters are poor, others are rich....some are loving and others harsh in their teachings. It is not in the appearance that they are the same, but in the essence. Each Master will teach his own path to enlightenment. Just because it differs from others, does not mean one is right and another is wrong. It is not the appearance, nor what is said by a Master that reveals the Truth...it is the ability to look beyond the appearance of things.

by Aquila Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:50 am

Enlightenment, as I see it, is the state of being that exists when the final veil is stripped away--the final veil separating the individual from the knowledge--not the belief, the knowledge--that he/she is One and Same with the Source.
This is a culmination of lifetimes of work to get to this state, which is beyond Mind.

I would add that this high state can be and often is relinquished, sacrificed temporarily, by a soul for the purpose of descending back into Mind and eventually into matter to help others who are ready to begin this ascent.

by Guest Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:17 am

Enlightenment is knowing thy self. In this a man will no longer suffer himself, in this is the salvific principle, in this a man shall attain and acquire his Soul as himself.

It is truly the process of the end of suffering. But something that comes in no other way then super conscious efforts -- a great work on oneself. At this time, a man does not possess himself -- when he does, he can truly be thy self. Not the self he think he knows now, which he does not own and is temporal, but the self he can manifest within himself, when he has ordered his kingdom to stand.

If a man knows anything about the ways of Enlightenment, he must know, beyond recognition that there is more importance in understanding the descent then the ascent, that it is far more advantageous to understand the disease first, or you are merely musing in imagination and improper functioning, in regards a cure that you know not of. A man must begin where he stands or he is caught in an illusion of the Laws, thinking he is one thing when he is not. The ascent is in the descent, the cure is in the disease. The key is in what you have been, you must bring the before and the after together within you and move through the center. Truly the Gnostic said it best, we are wiser than the demiurge.

by StarSeeker Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:02 am

Admin wrote:Here are some views about "what is Enlightenment" from various gurus:

Sri Bhagavan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiRIndmiKyU

Yogiraj Siddhanath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M8X1xD9WCU&feature=related

DattatreyaSivaBaba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3hM6LFzWlU&feature=related

What are your thoughts on these?

PLU ~ Bob

Sri Bhagavan:
Personally I like his style. I think it is very interesting how he states that you can see thoughts flowing around you, and that shows me how much work I have in front of me. I was very comforted when he said that you are already in heaven.

Yogiraj Siddhanath:
This man is a little more encouraging. He states things like, "Only you have the power to do it...no one can do it for you" What I got most out of this was that there is a road to get back to the point of bliss, and that it may be possible to perpetually exist in that state.

DattatreyaSivaBaba:
In my minds eye I saw this man emanating light. I would be very interested to see his other videos to find out what other things he has to say.

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