THE GNOSTIC WAY

The issue of today, facing many of our Americans, has been confused or misplaced by a simple illusion. It’s like the old magician's slight of hand trick that has caused many of us, in more ways than one, to wallow in the forgetfulness of our rights, which are imbued by “The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God.” You see, “WE THE PEOPLE” often forget the spirit of our forefathers; those who framed this country out of the philosophy and hunger for freedom from tyranny and
the entrapment by the social powers of their day.

It just begs me to ask, “Has our consciousness progressively stooped so low beneath the radar of action that we now operate in reversal to the concepts, the first principles that once stood for so much that people literally died to obtain and build upon them? Well, ultimately, I believe that it's to the degree that our complacency has grasped a hold of our own common sense, and we have become slaves of depravity and to our drunken stupor of being so aloof to the apparent backslide of our nation.

Indeed, this seems to clearly be occurring, and many people are not conscious of its implications since most of us are in a mechanical daze/stupor which only responds to the familiar stimulus of our external, mundane lives. (This is our organic human nature that we all face.) Hence, this mechanical reaction is essentially the norm among those without consciousness; making action pretty limited to the extent that it is almost ceases to exist. It ceases to exist since action is in
consciousness for it to be a genuine. One must be conscious of the many variables in life to put forth an effort that creates self movement, the movement forward in conscious thought, conscious intention, and conscious application of which, all of the above, comes from objective observation.

The “Slight of hand” I was referring to earlier is the common mistake of shifting blame or attention to another thing, in sacrifice and in place of the true source of the issue, which, in the end result, doesn’t help bring about any advantageous solution. Such things only confuse us to the point that we don’t even know what the problem exactly is, and if we don’t know what the problem is, or the source of the issue, how can we actively work on bringing it to the light and resolving it? But, this is what occurs...most of us invest in quick-fix solutions since we can't get to the root of the real issue, and often the quick fixes end up compounding the problem even more. You will recognize that the attention is constantly shifted to external things of which most of us then enact these very limited and irrational solvents, and never attempt to look within ourselves with the proverbial stick of observation and discernment. In turn, we are not applying that same observation to ourselves, since everything that is now occurring; we have created by virtue of our complacency towards the most effective means of said resolution. Complacency not only kills, but it becomes our tomb. There is not a thing in this world that occurs to us that we have not brought upon ourselves in the lives that we live individually and collectively and a good deal of the reason is because we are not
living up to the rights that we have been imbued with, in birth, which in order words not living what is in our capacity to.

Allow me to provide an example of the occurrence and process of shifting blame, or attention. There are times that people go as far as to label Bush in the same light as Hitler. Whether true or not (which it isn’t, not to say he is good since no man is good but necessary considering the state that people brought things about and what he had to do to ensure safety), I will often hear claims such as, “Bush is this and Bush is that, he is destroying our country, he is only afte roil...etc.”
Unfortunately, these “judgments” are a product of people becoming completely unaware of the true problem, which essentially lies within them, and their judgment begins shifting towards a single individual. People often fail to realize that their judgments will always come back upon them. (It is never just about one individual.) Bush is a Fundamentalist Christian and a puppet, but not a puppet in the manner that most think who judge in ignorance, because most people are puppets as this world is much like a play in regards higher laws, a great stage where the parts written from the true co-creators manifest us within our reflective parts. People tend to get mad at the individual for playing the part they have been given on this Great Stage with regards to their choices, or their failure to come to consciousness when the opportunity presented itself. The only lawlessness that exists is in not expressing what the law guarantees us as joint collaborators in a country which is based on “WE THE PEOPLE.” So, what occurs is what WE THE PEOPLE let occur? You betcha, we did it and all that occurs in this world occurs in keeping with the people, the actors of this play has done. We brought it about through our complacency and our refusal to come to consciousness when the opportunity presented itself. We remained within our common shadows in the unconscious movement of business as usual, and let it all come to ruin when we could’ve been the LIGHT of this country, instead of letting the powers that be begin to dictate how we should think and allowing them to be as our masters when, in fact, government is supposed to serve us! This is a test for us in this time, it is an interval to see if we will hold or fold.....(Continued..)

Why do we never ask the true question, “How did we get to this point?” The truth is that everything that happens in this world comes about through cosmic laws, which are moving and bringing about every single event with regards to what the people choose to do with those pockets of choice they have had which were beyond relevant. Things are cyclic in this world in regards its movements and many people fail to learn from the past by bringing it in the Light of consciousness. Bush being
elected came to be by Law; he was put in that position in reflection to what the people had done with what they had in hand, or refused to make use out of. The fact is that the mechanical nature of man is what hinders man, our thinking becomes conditioned and we dwell within the organic. Our thoughts become cyclic, where they no longer evolve within our mind but keep us surface bound in thinking that we can not rise towards higher avenues of reason and utilizing greater facilities of mind, but only operating from an organic vibration and never seeing the bigger picture, which escapes us. It’s an illusion that many of us are in not seeing, which are as intricate formations before us; “not seeing” the reality of their own story that is unfolding before their
eyes.

But, it is typical with human nature. We often look outside of ourselves since we place our lifeline in the hands of other things besides our own inner power, intuition and indwelling Teacher, when our lives are in our power to protect and stand firm in our hands. The latter of placing our lives in the hands of external hands would be making for yourself outside sources which do not have the best interest for you. Most leaders of the world will always lead the people wrong because they are blind from anything that is of a higher perspective and whole, and having a fragmented mind, they are as faulty as the individuals they are set forth to lead, often leading them to their own lust, but they were put in those positions because of the people, so the lust that people are lead into is of their own doing. We must become conscious and be the change we want to see in the world, we must embody that change and accommodate it so it can prosper and manifest through us. If everything that occurs has happened in regards to people, then change will come as our thinking will come back upon us, but how that change will arrive will heavily depend on what we are willing to do to BE that change as we live, move, and have our being. The road of peace begins with the individual. You want external peace? You want a world of enlightenment? Then, you have to apply within yourself to be that enlightenment, again you are your salvation and that which you don’t
have within you will decide where you will be. The future that awaits for those who are of the ignorance of this world is not a pretty one, unless they come to now. And it isn’t that these things can’t be avoided, rather that it is exceedingly difficult for many to shake off the intoxication which has caused them to stoop within such a spell where they function as a self destructive poverty. We all have the capacity for consciousness; we are within ourselves the worst enemy we will ever face. America has turned upon itself and will only become worse because of us. One inherits the result of their action or lack thereof, such movements decides the conditions to come. To be truly
educated means to draw without from the within, and, at the same token, the key to knowledge means to apply all things (metaphorically) within your own self, your observations must become the stimulus that beings to open the inner gate of your own Indwelling True Nature. At this
point, WE THE PEOPLE are doing neither of these things. And, thus, we will inherit the backlash.

I often think back to the 1930’s when the Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain led the British in those tumultuous times. The fascinating thing is that Chamberlain only did what the people wanted in regards the Munich Agreement where he appeased to Hitler. You see, he was put into that position by the higher laws, for the people, as their opportunity for their intentions. He brought about that Agreement and said it was, “Peace in our time.” As believed, he thought he achieved peace with Hitler, when he (Hitler) could’ve been stopped in his tracks, at that point. Chamberlain was put into that position; it was presented as a test of consciousness for all people, and it came about by reason of events and experiences that were invoked in the cosmic laws prior in history. We all know how the story went, Hitler completely disregarded the Agreement and he expanded his territory and went on to kill millions more, which could’ve been avoided had they listened to such people as Winston Churchill. (Again we see the laws at work, as the two paradoxical views or polarities were presented at the same time. Would people hold with Winston or fold with Chamberlain?) After it was all said and done history remembers Chamberlain’s legacy as dark footnote of error in history and he is often recognized as the worst Prime Minister in history considering the events that transpired/followed from his appeasement (which the PEOPLE actually wanted and often prayed for), they shifted all the blame to him, when the reality was that he
was placed in that position from higher laws because of the people, if I may speak from a higher spiritual perspective his soul volunteered for this position. This was by reason of what the people wanted as a product of their complacency. The change for their thoughts and intentions where spring forth on the main stage of life, their thoughts were fragmented and produced a fragmented start by not being active and wanting change, they prayed for change and change came, but it came in a manner that it could only come since the people did not rise to consciousness being within am illusion of mind caused by these same laws as individuals were given over to their own ignorance’s.

So we can blame Bush all day, but in the end the karma will be on WE THE PEOPLE for not acting within an interval in life when the times behooved us to come to consciousness. Anytime there is a shock and awe in events where it causes people to pause in their tracks, where their
business as usual everyday auto-pilot nature is halted, even if it is just for a moment, that moment will count for lifetimes as there is much opportunity within such a state. And Bush is doing a service for the people as a soul placed in that position in result of the people themselves.

Winston Churchill once stated, "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happened.” Well consider this time you stumbling upon truth, this knowledge which is self knowledge as all knowledge is self knowledge when understood. Our country is supposed to operate as a body in regards its organs, working in perfect harmony. Although they (organs) function in different ways, a body can easily get a dis-ease and become imbalanced, which means
that the body is turning upon itself and is self destroying, this in and of itself is on a microcosm scale the laws of Octave, as all things are bound to turn upon itself without consciousness whether religion, ism, or country which is built upon very important principles. But a dis-ease can be combated with treatments, medicines, and other procedures, but in order to combat it one must not lie to themselves, one must not fail to suspect, one must not turn a blind eye, one must
not be unconscious to it and must know the disease (the source) as it can never be dealt with unconsciously, you must apply to it consciously and in a manner that is rectifying to that illness alone. Without being proactive towards the illness it will consume us, that illness is the fog upon our minds which has caused an overcast of thoughts to distort our vision and us becoming dis-harmonized as these aspects of mind are too busy trapped in our respective past…come to the NOW everyone! Recognize the true enemy is our own complacency. Will our footnote in
history be that of the failures of the past that sat on their butts in passiveness letting everything go to ruin? Or will we rise to something more, something surpassing the generations greatest achievements and actually obtain greater Truth, Life, and Higher Being?

Shalom,

Ra.

passerby.. that was excellent.
i just want to do something , if the whole bottom half of the triangle would wake up and come togrther things would change.every where you go people are bitchen.... about gas ,food,the extreme high cost to live and care for your family
but people are just accepting it and doing nothing but complaining, i bought a jeep cause i live in the woods on a dirt road
not status. i am now looking for a small front weel drive standard ,and if i have to walk 2 miles to my house because i cant get down the drive , i will.what more can we do?this is a "i want it now," microwave world we live in . your post is right on the mark. i could not agree more. but how are WE THE PEOPLE going to do this . when the world of people are they way they are. what is gonna happen imo is , it will hit the fan , this country especially, will have no chioce but to HAVE TO LIVE ON LESS , be stripped, of toys, trips, expensive hobbies, mabey cable, computer . life changes will have to be made.
if it is not started now,, they will freak when they have to do it all at once.this will be a mighty humbeling experiance for the people,on the up side... people will change ,evolve and re-prioritize there lives

sopherim

Passerby....greetings to you brother. Your Strong frame of mind and Soul is truly refreshing as always, and you are very correct in your insights to possing a Spiritual strength of many upon a mortal deficiency of things to bring about a needed healthy change we as Children of God can live by together. Please never lose that drive of self, as You will truly need it in the upcomming days indeed.

For as Jesus the Master to His discipls have said concerning these trials at the end of Days. See all these things and do not Care, but put your faith in Me (Father).
He said this because there will be nothing they can do about them. Them being all the injustises of the world. Earthquakes, famine. Sickness, Vocanoes... we see and hear of them daily now.

Now let me try this from a diferant angle for you to see what has been shown me.
From the Gnostic point of View and many sojournors within. view much litteral happenings of the Bible as fact to be nothing more than coincedence or choosen multiple effects. I was shown great proof of portions of the bible scriptures not all. In fact the spirit had me reseach the intire Bible as well as other books back to their origans and Furthur.
The malici Prophesies of the Catholic church is where My new journey begain when veiw as being 100% correct with the election of the recent pope. I said Man is not that accurate in Guessing something like that since 1180 AD every Pope was named exactly axccording to then Bishop Malichi, then later pope himself.
I called a meeting with my Brothers and sister with this insight of question. Now we had just found out that the RCC was not the Holiness it portrys but oppposit to the dark degree. So was this prophesy by God being 100% or was it by the God of this world knowing exactly.. 100% all indicators placed it with Satans dealings as self fulfilled prophesy of the Dark side.
Now when coming into the Gnostic understanding of the Bible by the scriptures of Christ placing the God of the old testiment in its right place , the pieces to where I started match perfectly.
The seeds of the Father within men having the free will to choose from the light or the Dark can and will carry out there expectations and wishes to there liking when the seeking the outer realms of either end, they choose too.
As in Chist Secret text says there are only two true churches upon the earth
One being the lamb of the Elohim (Christ) and the Chuch of Satan. All others are still the church of Satan. A very heavy scripture indeed ayy? but very true from my thousands of pages of reseach I was lead too. I will place here one big piece of the veil which is very hard to tell anyone
Alberto Rivera How the Vatican created Islam Tue Dec 11 00
Good luck with it , it has been much reseached and verified as fact to those who seek it from there asking.
See now understanding that the Mortal world since its creation has been minipulated and watched and controled by Satan and His Archons in every facit of Life right up to now at this timeline. The Light truly has total power over the Dark so when one places themselves in the light of the Father, all can be known of the world of the dark and the Archons truly if we seeks it by asking. Few truly know how to do that also, because they are told to fear God.

I am truly amazed again and again how differant plans of the light can be so much together in this very moment. For you said in your post that Bush was a Puppet, not knowing of the light, and serving others by stimulation. For you are so correct in what you say. Bysh is a member of scull and Bones First, president 2nd, with his oaths in that order also.

Now I my self am 55 years old, I have seen many cycles of Earthly things played out in a hypocritical way (they Lied)
ex; When Reactors in Nuclear power plants were comming out, and Submarines like Mine the USS Nautilus the reactor core moduals were so radioactivly Hot they didn`t know what to do with the waste to keep it from exposure to the public. I was a radiation worker back then, I read the levels. They burried some on this man made Island of Concrete way out in the ocean somewhere and after 20 years it started cracking and killing everything around it, sea and air. They then burried it deep in a Mountain in the mid west, when then they found it to be contaminating the drinking water and the soil for the whole area. But Now You don`t even hear of that problem any more due we? we even have close to 10 times the reactors, just in this country alone. So what has change you ask?
Starting with the war in Kosovo by Our friend Clinton, then Desrt strom one by Dady Bush, Afganistan, and IRaq now by yours truly has Made Amunition out of all the nuclear wast fitted to every Gun size we and other countries have got. and well contaminating everything in sight in the world, especially our own Men. 60% of our service men cannot have Babies anymore, this is fact.

For me the best I can say for bush is ; I pray for his Judgement to be fair. which as Gnostics knowledge it will be , of his own doing of the seed thats within him if he does not stop working against the laws of the Father.

He is really one of many perpetrateing the veil. We are to stay within the Father and help as many we can from under that veil now that we know what it is. The true vastness of the veil is much Larger indeed My friends and all who read this please consider it. It has not been hastily acquired.

Vatican - Avro Manhattan Here is another Noted Author with his Father spent 70 years of reasearch on exposing the truth.

You may ask why should I be knowing the Dark side this much. The answer I have found in Christ, for when seeing how dark the truth now is around you at this point in time, your appreciation of the Light within that you know shines more the brighter.

I welcome anyone to talk with are give proof of these things I say, for the spirit freely should them to me. Many have attack me for these things and others. But in 4 years not one finding has been disproven from what has been shown me by the Parents in all Praise of the Father.


2 Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"



Brother Thomas..........

prism. says........... "You may ask why should I be knowing the Dark
side this much. The answer I have found in Christ, for when seeing how
dark the truth now is around you at this point in time, your
appreciation of the Light within that you know shines more the brighter. "


the whole post was excellent , but i will comment on this one as it struck a cord with me. there is a tremendous depth to what you say right here...i have found that GOD does in fact do a lot of his teachings in contrasts, i so agree with your statement here, you do have a greater appreation, even understanding of the light within because of the darkness that seems to be gaining in momentum and velocity as time moves forward, this makes true pure light even more special
when we see and recognise it in the people who shine it besides our selfs. we truley seem at times to be a different race all together...


sopherim

sopherim7 wrote:prism. says........... "You may ask why should I be knowing the Dark
side this much. The answer I have found in Christ, for when seeing how
dark the truth now is around you at this point in time, your
appreciation of the Light within that you know shines more the brighter. "


the whole post was excellent , but i will comment on this one as it struck a cord with me. there is a tremendous depth to what you say right here...i have found that GOD does in fact do a lot of his teachings in contrasts, i so agree with your statement here, you do have a greater appreation, even understanding of the light within because of the darkness that seems to be gaining in momentum and velocity as time moves forward, this makes true pure light even more special
when we see and recognise it in the people who shine it besides our selfs. we truley seem at times to be a different race all together...


sopherim

You are blessed indeed Sister to see how God Helps us to inhance that which is within us and is known. There are Folks that reach for that light, but take it for granted that it will be there and as strong, if they tarry some upon earthly gifts of non consequence, before returning. I am truly glad to have breached the veil for you to understand Sopherim. Thier is no man or Woman on earth that is not effected by the full veil in differant degrees and forms. May I be so bold to give yoou another.

Womans Lib; Actually started with WW2, to place woman in factories and break down the family unit. The councel on foreign Relations (Rockafeller foundation) funded the billions for publicity to attain the movement within the USA for two specific reasons; One to tax the other half of the US, and 2nd get the kids into government schools earlier to indoctrinate them in the System without the family. Here are 2 articles of many Sopherim; Rockefeller Admitted Elite Goal Of Microchipped Population
Brainwashing Women – The Elite is Brainwashing Women and Men

This was a 3 year answer the spirit showed me Sopherim. I ask to be shown, what it was, that will fool even the elect. My Life was about to change forever. My Spirit side became empowered and my mortal side begain to release the needs within the world in steps. These points were reached so that the Spirit could teach me of the Mysteries of the Father, as all true parents wish to protect thier children from things that will hurt them, without empeading their progression in knowledge and fulness.

This is all connected so fantastically ordered it brings the even the Christ mind as we are within the body to limits that could not be even imagined prior, and still return to help the most lost Child of God to the meekest of step, as a child.

Much grace of the father to you for taking interest in breaching the veil unto the Knigdom of Lights Sopherim.

Brother Thomas.......

i checked out those links......right on..have you seen the zietgeist movie? here is a link to it it is worth your time really ,you have to watch this http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ when i saw this it blew my mind,it makes total sense.i could not believe how underhanded and deceptive our government elite really are. no wonder the world seems to really hate the u.s .as i have stated before iam raising my children to know there adult world is gonna be very differant then the one i live.
i also see how the breakdown has occured with womens lib. what a joke!! thanks alot..now not only can they draft both my sons they can take my daughter too.this truley has caused the disfunction of the american family. but in todays world,,i do have to work..we cannot afford to live. it makes me sick that the majority of todays youth are raised by the smut and violence of the t.v ...........and now the computer .mom and dad are not teaching kids...you tube is and what are they learning? not the ways of the kingdom that is for sure. it breaks my heart to see such destruction . i have made a choice to be poor..i have a job but my kids come first . i will only work 1st shift , if the school calls i leave, snow day i call in ..and i do not give a crap about what anyone thinks,my first role in this world,after child of GOD it is being woman ,mother of three.that is that. when my children are grown and pursuing there roles in life ,i will have no regrets that i wish i could have been there for.i have friends who never ever see there kids.. parents who work second shift ... how do they do it...why do they do it.....because it takes money to live. it is such a trap. the government blames bad parenting ,but capitolism does not allow you to raise your kids. thats why this generation of kids are the most un empathetic,violent,selfish group in history .if i had a soap box i would run for president. oh i know i am foolish, but it is truley very dishearting to see the dark world closing in some times, it seems so hard at times to keep our lanterns lit, but...............he who is in me is greater then he who is in the world
and my favorite when i am weak...HE IS STRONG ........and he keeps that flame alive for his glory for his word does not and shall never return to him void!!!!!!!!!!!!!


sopherim

sopherim7 wrote:i checked out those links......right on..have you seen the zietgeist movie? here is a link to it it is worth your time really ,you have to watch this http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ when i saw this it blew my mind,it makes total sense.i could not believe how underhanded and deceptive our government elite really are. no wonder the world seems to really hate the u.s .as i have stated before iam raising my children to know there adult world is gonna be very differant then the one i live.
i also see how the breakdown has occured with womens lib. what a joke!! thanks alot..now not only can they draft both my sons they can take my daughter too.this truley has caused the disfunction of the american family. but in todays world,,i do have to work..we cannot afford to live. it makes me sick that the majority of todays youth are raised by the smut and violence of the t.v ...........and now the computer .mom and dad are not teaching kids...you tube is and what are they learning? not the ways of the kingdom that is for sure. it breaks my heart to see such destruction . i have made a choice to be poor..i have a job but my kids come first . i will only work 1st shift , if the school calls i leave, snow day i call in ..and i do not give a crap about what anyone thinks,my first role in this world,after child of GOD it is being woman ,mother of three.that is that. when my children are grown and pursuing there roles in life ,i will have no regrets that i wish i could have been there for.i have friends who never ever see there kids.. parents who work second shift ... how do they do it...why do they do it.....because it takes money to live. it is such a trap. the government blames bad parenting ,but capitolism does not allow you to raise your kids. thats why this generation of kids are the most un empathetic,violent,selfish group in history .if i had a soap box i would run for president. oh i know i am foolish, but it is truley very dishearting to see the dark world closing in some times, it seems so hard at times to keep our lanterns lit, but...............he who is in me is greater then he who is in the world
and my favorite when i am weak...HE IS STRONG ........and he keeps that flame alive for his glory for his word does not and shall never return to him void!!!!!!!!!!!!!


sopherim

Sopherim... I have yet to see that Movie but do wish to dear one, I still have dial up here in SC now and its abit slow.

Now that You have seen a few of these things as I hope others have and know that our lives are no differant then they were before, but our curious questions we have always had are coming to light.... Gee that phase fits well now huh?

Let me tell you short truthful story; After I realize the falsehoods that I believed as being true, as with my Father, Primarily the Catholic Church I was angered greatly within myself as how I could be fooled so bad as to believing all this when it is now so plain to see. I trashed every crusific I had, and mother mary pictures etc. ohhh it was quite a show indeed LOLOL...then after when I had to sit and think, God ask Me; Ok Tom do you feel better now LOL.... I had to smile and say well yaa In away.... So He told me ; Now that we got that all out of the way, and you are now receptive to changes I will answer your question You had if You are still willful to see. We both new that answer for I was relizing this is why I was born after wards. And why He came to me 30 years ago.
And I knew it was about the Elect instantly.

I have told you this Sopherim because of the polarity of emotions everyone goes through in this to thier own way, when Pulling away from the things of the world that You held as.... well truthful and though it didn`t need watching or wondering if its good for us or not, ya know. Christ in Mathew says to see all these things and care not, but put yourself in me. Easy words to say, many do, but now you will see why He was saying it from within(personal like) just like the Gospel of Thomas one.

2 Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

Its ok to be a little upset if you wish, we are human. The Great Joy I find within the father now after 3 years of all this and now returning to the world of sorts only to help others see it is and also walk out is a feeling that is unexplainable Happiness still within the Fluxtuations of our seeking in a differant light with Christ.

God wishes us to find the power of our light that He is in us, by all this truth that we were born into and will return to our Inheritance from our efferts in Him.

There are very few that believe these things You have seen , and found them true indeed Sopherim.

Much Love and Grace in the Father to you on the continuation of our Journey Gal, It has been a great pleasure to see such faith and talk with You in these things, for the Father loves and is with us all always. The Parents have shown me many distinations concerning the Little Childen also. For they have great riches set in His House already, Those that have not been tainted by the mortal world.



I will try to view that Movie it does sound must iinteresting......

Till we Talk again in the now, much peace to you, and Harmony

Brother Thomas.......

What I wrote wasn't about conspiracy theories or what have you, such things are pointless and a waste of energy, imo, AND LACKS DEPTH. When I said G.W.B was a puppet I was saying in the same manner that everyone is. And to understand what I mean by sleeping puppets you will have to understand the constitution of oneself in regards the cosmic forces, or laws which work upon man. As there is a gravity outside of man there is a gravity within a man, in regards to his thoughts and aspirations which keep them earth-bound, turning upon itself -- insomuch that a man doesn't even have original thoughts, he is fully of the world.

G.W was put in the position that he is by the Laws because of what the many have failed to act on, that is take a hold of the opportunities that were presented or would not have been complacent towards things prior. G.W. has a Soul as well, and well people bury their heads in books and scriptures, they will not perceive higher reality from them. In the Spirit everything has a strategy to it, nothing is by chance or coincidence and in spirit, there is a Brotherhood of Souls, as no one is an enemy in Spirit.

Anyone who is so taken by these conspiracies do not understand that the laws oversees, governs, and brings about ever event. If there is a government that is corrupted it is by reason of these laws working upon the people and the people failing to come to consciousness while they were in a mechanical complacent stupor. Government was always a necessary evil and government only became what it was by reason of the unconsciousness of the people. So when people judge G.W they judge themselves, more than often. I don't vote and I am not a G.W supporter, I am just telling it as it is.

I am sorry I just don't see much point in conspiracy theories none of them can help you to achieve Gnosis. It's all worthless imagination and a attraction which helps to keep one sleep, since of course it is a fragmented part of themselves that is clinging to said imagination which sends ones energy into different directions, externally. But that is just how I feel, I like the point -- things which have a significance that can be applied in ones life and used for their growth.

well...............excuse me i hope you are not as offended as i think you are passerby..i did not say you were talking about conspiracy theories ,nor did i think you were. in my reply i spoke what i felt ,and in the second post i was replying to prism
and about the zeitgeist movie ... have you seen it? i enjoyed it,after the initial shock wore off . it really presents very reliable info that all America should know about our capitalistic government
sorry for offending you ... i did enjoy your post!!!

sopherim

passerby says

The part about the income tax and etc, well it was
ok but was from other better documentaries like Freedom to Fascism. And
all that it is conveying is the reality that the Nation is completely
turning against itself -- against the foundational principles of which
it was created upon. And this is again the reality of the Laws working
upon the mind of man, as all things, all movements without
consciousness are doomed to turn upon their first principles and become
the very thing which in the beginning they fought against but in this
newly illusion imagine that they are doing good when they are really
working in reverse to the ideal. And we can see how it all came about
by the many not utilizing the opportunities given them and rising to
consciousness in intervals where it was the most vital to act as they
were shock periods. (The income tax issue would've never happened if
the people weren't complacent and a bunch of the other stuff that
occurred, so man has inherited their the fruit of their actions or
non-actions by law so its merely reaping what has been sowed.)


exactley, and i feel like i need to do something but i dont know where to start. i dont know a thing about your money / family stuff, but as a single mom of 3 kids 4 dollar gas and going in the hole driving to work is not making this vry easy.and there is no logical reason for things to be as they are ....... and it is getting ready to pop . and not all the people are very christ like in times of hard ship and strife nor when life is smooth . people are going to have to wake up and evolve ,or there is no hope .unless they recieve and except truth and allow GOD to do his thing and let him refine with his holy fire now... we have to keep our walk holy and as much as depends be at peace with all men...i have been noiticing such anger,every where. and it has be reveiled in me today as i judge so shall i be judged.

as far as 9/11 .......... i am curious about your thoughts ...but will not pester you ...........
i have a deep interest in it ,in my heart and soul ....as i stated in another post and from the get go there have been many
oddities that concern me..

i am thankfull that you were not offended , you have much paitience and understanding...and i also appreciate the knowledge and the wisdom in how you use it


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ps............

yea, i chuckled too at some things in there as far as the religions go. but the political stuff and how it was backed up is what threw me for a loop..it connected alot of dots and did make a picture..and it is logical . i have watched several docs on it and they do seem to really cause one to pause

Passerby writes;

I am sorry I just don't see much point in conspiracy theories none of them can help you to achieve Gnosis

It is widely known within Gnostic scripture that the mortal world was created from the design of the parents in secret to the Archons, to let them think it was from them. As the 2nd true church, which is the Chuch of Satan and His creations with stollen power. Thier only power 100% of them is total self dstruction, which is Fate. All this too is of the knowledge of Father, expressed in Christ Gnostic scriptures.
As He says in Gospel of Thomas; There is nothing for man not to know, so we can know all if we so seek that. The two churches are within our grasp as mankind at either end of the spectrum to learn , follow, know or anything we want in any degree we wish, that is our free will due to the seed of the Father within us. So if all this is from the Father, even all the goings on in the mortal plian, should this not be apart of the total knowledge of who we are to understand ? of corse it is. How much it effects each Soul, and in what way, is intirely up to the the individual soul and the amount of deepth of it is sought of any particlar point of knowledge, with also looking at it from differant levels of personel enlightenment gather within ones journey.
I am not saying with the mortal facts I bring that they will be of any particlar use from the ones hearing. I am presenting the facts from the Spirit I was shown of them alone, claiming no judgement or Hypothesis of their outcome in anothers point of view. I respect and honor the Fathers seed in them and if the Spirit is to move them, so it shall indeed.

I have learned also that what ever truth You seek and disclose as fact within the mortal realm it truly leads back to the Father in reason of it. I also had to attain Gnosis in the Father to be shown by the Spirit these things I sought in truth in the mortal realm. The connection between the two is fare greater then most see, but can in becomeing a child in the Kingdom and all will be open to you.

You are correct in seeing that treading deeper in the Dark creations within the world for answers is trying, I will be the first to admit that in the journey I had. I needed to come up for air so to speek as do we all, even in our daily trials, and yes this was a commitment discession I myself asked for with no road maps, only what the father has graxed me with and My duty within Him.

Is this Gnosis?, Yes it is, but of a differant style from that we have here on a regular basis
At my end majority completion to my asking I now saw the reason for the many divided religious sections and their people and beliefs and why they believe these things. Also the linking Factors that hold them all together, even the gnostics under God. This linking thing is Gnostics (Christ is the Gnosis of the Universe) and always will be. But we are not a separate group as I have tryied to indicate here at all. We are no differant then the Catholic, islamic, protest, begger or thief, in our creation. Its just what we do with what we know for others. Christ has said the Higher in the eons You are, the more You shall be the caretakers of those underneith you. For is not the Father the greatest Caretaker of all.

In Summary here Spiritual continual expansion on an every day basis is the Most we can achieve and is much seeking indeed, as we are still subjected to time.

Seek the Child within to the Father to have purity and see all there is to see.

Brother Thomas...