David Ben-Ariel

I found the following information on Amazon.com, in a book review of David Ben-Ariel's book:

"David Ben-Ariel, dim-witted author at best has decided to enlighten the world with his fanatical fantasies. Does he have any actual evidence to back up any of his claims? Nope. Is his name Ben-Ariel? Nope, that's a name he made up to feel closer to the nation he is not a part of. So, He's an American that plays make believe for his family history. But besides his delving into religo-sci-fi, most don't realize that this guy was arrested, interrogated, imprisoned, and kicked out of Israel for attempting to blow up the Al-Aqsa mosque in 1996. His Visa was removed, and he has not been allowed to return since."

Perhaps David would like to comment on this?

PLU ~ Bob

Hi Bob,

David leaves a long trail of information on the web on other forums and his many blogs. Many of his blog posts elsewhere are repeated on this site.

But his own blog http://www.davidbenariel.org/third-temple/blow-up-mosques-expired-visa.htm addresses that critic.

Note in particular at the bottom of the above link is this gem:

Edward Abington, Jr.'s letter
page 2

It reads (this is the U.S. Consul General in Jerusalem writing):

"Mr. Ben-Ariel continues to write letters and articles about his imprisonment in Israel. He has strongly held political views which cause him to seek publicity to further his cause. He is clearly proud of his efforts and his imprisonment but frankly we at the U.S. Consulate General in Jerusalem do not have the resources, time or staff to continue responding to his letters which are both offensive and not cogent."


A terrorist? Nope. Annoying? with a Consular reference.

Peace,
Mark

Hmmm. I am very interested in Ben Ariel's response as well.


But he probably wont respond, anyhow, he has never been interested in 2 way communication (probably cuz of a COMPLETE inability to listen to ANYTHING but his own voice.

Told you the guy was WACKED....

Beyond Babylon review

A Must Read, If You Share His Premises,
By Robert Locke
The fanatically negative reviews of other reviewers should clue the potential purchaser in on one thing only: this is a religious book, and as such, is contrary to some people's deeply-held beliefs. David Ben-Ariel is a Christian Zionist, something which upsets some people (read "Moslems") no end. But if you are a Christian seeking the connections between your own religion and Zionism, or a Jew, seeking to understand why some Christians are such staunch supporters of your cousins in the Middle East, this book is one of the best explanations out there. Ben-Ariel is not shy about taking the Bible, and what it implies about contemporary political events, seriously. If you are not a religious believer, you will find his connections between Bible verses and contemporary political events simply irrelevant, but that's up to you.

"The American Diplomat in Arafat's Corner," published in The Jerusalem Report, came as no surprise to me. It was referring to Edward Abington, Jr., the United States' former consul general in Jerusalem who is now "guiding the Palestinians through the labyrinths of Washington. And his firm is being paid $2.25 million for his expertise."

Allow the following information to shed light on his less than faithful service to American taxpayers:

"Dear Congresswoman Kaptur: Thank you for your valuable assistance in my pursuit of justice! It's wonderfully refreshing to see some public servants truly helping out their fellow Americans.

It's obvious from Mr. Abington, Jr.'s letter to you that he has strongly held political views that prefers the continued occupation of JUDAISM'S MOST HOLY SITE -- the Temple Mount -- by militant Muslims. Such radical views enable the Muslim extremists to continue to pose a threat to religious Jews and Christians who merely hope to pray on the site...

However historically or biblically inaccurate Mr. Abington, Jr's views are, I believe he is entitled to them. I do not believe his personal views ought to interfere with his public duty. It appears he has DELIBERATELY IGNORED every relevant FACT that PROVED my arrest amounted to political and religious PERSECUTION.

As honestly reported in The Jerusalem Post article he referred to, I wasn't interrogated...by 6 different SECRET SERVICEMEN about the TEMPLE MOUNT because of an "expired visa!"
I charged Ms. Leech (his assistant) with complicity in their unjust actions against me for going along with their lie that my visa was expired and for turning a blind eye to their undemocratic ways. I'd given her a letter for Mr. Abington, Jr. to PROTEST MY POLITICAL ABUSE AND RELIGIOUS MISTREATMENT. Since he never bothered to respond, I'm not
sure he even received it.

It was difficult to deal with Ms. Leech...since she was quite antagonistic, contending that Israel wanted to deport me because "you wanted to blow up the mosque." When I
protested that simply was NOT TRUE, she angrily ordered her assistant, "Go see what he's charged with." He came back and said, "Visa violation." So she KNEW the real reason I was in jail was for being a member of the Temple Mount Faithful, but later went along with their LIE about my visa...

Mr. Abington, Jr. falsely accused me of being proud about my imprisonment. I'm not proud of it nor ashamed, but I do believe in making the most out of a bad situation...Why shouldn't I use my horrible experience to underscore and further the JUST CAUSE of the Temple Mount Faithful? How could anyone fail to understand this?...After all, it's the TEMPLE Mount, not the mosque mount!

Is it too much for an INNOCENT AMERICAN to expect his government to stand up for him? All I've requested from the beginning is for the Consul General to STRONGLY PROTEST my unjust imprisonment and deportation.
They know what I say is the truth, but because of their hostile views, they're playing deaf, dumb and blind to
the fact that I was a POLITICO-RELIGIOUS PRISONER.

Frankly, they're upset that I refused to go like a lamb to slaughter, but roared like a lion instead - exposing Peres' corruption and their complicity.
I will continue to seek justice until it is found...."

Unprofitable Servant wrote:his own blog http://www.davidbenariel.org/third-temple/blow-up-mosques-expired-visa.htm addresses that critic.

Note in particular at the bottom of the above link is this gem:

Edward Abington, Jr.'s letter
page 2

It reads (this is the U.S. Consul General in Jerusalem writing):

"Mr. Ben-Ariel continues to write letters and articles about his imprisonment in Israel. He has strongly held political views which cause him to seek publicity to further his cause. He is clearly proud of his efforts and his imprisonment but frankly we at the U.S. Consulate General in Jerusalem do not have the resources, time or staff to continue responding to his letters which are both offensive and not cogent."


A terrorist? Nope. Annoying? with a Consular reference.

Yes, the PLO prostitute is annoyed by the FACTS and just wishes the spotlight would go away. Edward Abington, Jr. really needs to be investigated for wasting American taxpayers' money while serving his PLO terrorist masters.

David Ben-Ariel wrote:

Yes, the PLO prostitute is annoyed by the FACTS and just wishes the spotlight would go away. Edward Abington, Jr. really needs to be investigated for wasting American taxpayers' money while serving his PLO terrorist masters.

That's quite some allegation.

Having read your story, and never been locked up myself, I would imagine it would be a quite a shitty experience. It seems you believe he did not do enough for you at that time. I would suggest - and this would benefit you a lot I think - is not to be angry with said Abington, Jr. but to forgive him. This is not easy, it is difficult, but the longer you put it off the harder it gets.

Jesus said "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

I myself have trespassed many times and I seek forgiveness for them. So why ought I blame someone for things when I am as guilty or more so? To forgive, not bear a grudge and to move on is a better way to live. Honestly, try it.

Peace,
Mark

"Ya get dirty with the people spreadin' dirt...." Lynkin Park

David Ben-Ariel wrote:
"...to his pro-Nazi-"

Huh, I wuddah thought you would understand that kind of reasoning.... After all, a bigot is a bigot REGUARDLESS of which side it is on......

After all, HIS 'God' told him HE was supposed to be a racist too, ya know...

Unprofitable Servant wrote:

David Ben-Ariel wrote:

Yes, the PLO prostitute is annoyed by the FACTS and just wishes the spotlight would go away. Edward Abington, Jr. really needs to be investigated for wasting American taxpayers' money while serving his PLO terrorist masters.

That's quite some allegation.

Yes, it is. Which is why he must be investigated.

It seems you believe he did not do enough for you at that time. I would suggest - and this would benefit you a lot I think - is not to be angry with said Abington, Jr. but to forgive him.

It's not just about me - it's the whole principle of the thing that somebody who was getting paid by American taxpayers' was serving alien interests and not looking after our own, aiding and abetting terrorists, which he shamelessly continues to do in Washington, DC where the bloody PLO has been given a special pass to remain here despite being rightly classified as a terrorist organization. Why hasn't somebody called Bush on this you're with us or against us?

I myself have trespassed many times and I seek forgiveness for them.

Abington, Jr. has not sought forgiveness and has failed to acknowledge any wrongdoing. Ask and you shall receive.

To forgive, not bear a grudge and to move on is a better way to live. Honestly, try it.

Am I to be more righteous than God and forgive those who haven't repented? To forgive and forget the sins of Amalek and those who aid and abet them?

Don't you understand how it's possible I have forgiven him and don't lose sleep over it, but for the sake of others, for the sake of the American taxpayers, for the sake of the holy issue of the Temple Mount and the many PRINCIPLES involved, I won't rest my case...yet? The Bible doesn't just speak of forgiveness, but JUSTICE. So be it. Seriously, try to understand.

JUSTICE

Leave that to Our Lord, don't think that you can do anything. You've never done anything, my friend.

This is actually cause for Rejoicing

You, nor anyone, has ever been able to usurp His Will.
Hallelujah!!!

Hi David,

Yes, it is. Which is why he must be investigated.

Please note that official investigations require evidence before they can proceed.

Am I to be more righteous than God and forgive those who haven't repented?

Indeed you should forgive unconditionally. That is the way it works. As Jesus says "love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you".

But even if you did as Jesus said, you could not exceed the righteousness of God. You have no idea how much God forgives man before he repents even a little. It is not good to compare yourself with God, because no one is able.

To forgive and forget the sins of Amalek and those who aid and abet them?

Amalek did no wrong to you, therefore you are in no position to either forgive or witness against Amalek. Likewise, the PLO, Jeremiah Wright, Obama and others you regularly talk about have not sinned against you personally so you can neither forgive nor condemn them. Leave these all to God.

The Bible doesn't just speak of forgiveness, but JUSTICE. So be it. Seriously, try to understand.

As eternal says, Deuteronomy 32:35 "To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence".

That's Gods department, not yours.


Peace,
Mark

KUDOS, Mark!

Spot on, Iam!

Can I get an 'Amen'?

DarkChylde wrote:KUDOS, Mark!

Spot on, Iam!

Can I get an 'Amen'?

OK then ~ Amen, and a Hallelujah too!

Bob