THE GNOSTIC WAY

pretending and closing your eyes,letting the darkness consume one from the inside out ,there own ignorance is putting the blinfold on , and one choses to allow it. .........

Greetings again All in our lord my friends, coming at you from Sunny South Carolina LOL After being somewhat settled in and PC crashed and fixed,,,, whooos. ta-da...LOL

Sopherim, its funny I was reading the scriptures from the Gnostic Bible so to speek I have by title, being that the pc was down in the letter of Peter to Philip, were Chist had explained to them that the Adversary, devil,darkforce etc; will Start attacking us at the very core of our spirit first for who, let him in that far . Due to he knows very well that even if the outside is Good it is nutured from the Core within us. so sooner or latter it all will fall, thats if the Mystery of Baptism is not invoked to once again make clean unto the Father, and keep the House within us divided 2 vs.3.
Pretending I think is the has one of the widest range of uses Man has invented for himself, the most Hidden and least to be found by averge everyday church goers, due to boardering on and Judgeing of others.
Yes it is true that with those closer to God, intuition is indeed availiable to see those that are pretending clearer, But like Christ has said as the servent, when more things are givin you, more thing are demanded of you. So the insight should be to adjust our efferts in helping others to more easily reach the other side so to speek, not Judge. Although some may say its the same, but the tone of the voice is the difference, and the harsh way would be treading on free will to the father for others.

So Sopherim you brought up one of the most important points that realy have to do with all knowledge in fact..... Bravo..

Very glad to be back People
May the dove always sore above the serpent in Love
Brother Thomas

prism...........i am overwhelmed ....and greatley blessed....i love you so so much.... you always know just what to say to me,and the timeing is always spot on ,i have been missing you,
sometimes my heart breaks over this issue ,and how to deal with it .you cannot make people stop pretending,you cannot control there ignorance, my own ignorance disgusts me as it is.is it so wrong to want all people to know the perfect love of christ that casts out all fears,so they wont be afraid when they open there eyes .....and keep them open? this is hard i know ,i have a hard enough time myself and i should not expect from others what i myself cannot always do, i wonder often times if when i am angry at someones ignorance,if i am not just angry with my self

sopherim

sopherim7 wrote: prism...........i am overwhelmed ....and greatley blessed....i love you so so much.... you always know just what to say to me,and the timeing is always spot on ,i have been missing you,
sometimes my heart breaks over this issue ,and how to deal with it .you cannot make people stop pretending,you cannot control there ignorance, my own ignorance disgusts me as it is.is it so wrong to want all people to know the perfect love of christ that casts out all fears,so they wont be afraid when they open there eyes .....and keep them open? this is hard i know ,i have a hard enough time myself and i should not expect from others what i myself cannot always do, i wonder often times if when i am angry at someones ignorance,if i am not just angry with my self

sopherim

Hi Soph

Did you know that the word PERSON / PERSONALITY (from Latin: Persona) originally meant a MASK ? i.e. a pretense to hide behind.

per·so·na [pər sṓnə]
(plural per·so·nas or per·so·nae [pər sṓnee])
noun

1.	assumed identity or role: an identity or role that somebody assumes
2.	character in literature: a character in a literary work, especially a play (often used in the plural)
3.	psychology psychoanalysis personal facade: the image of character and personality that somebody wants to show the outside world. This concept originated in Jungian psychology.

[Early 20th century. < Latin , "mask worn by an actor, character"]Microsoft® Encarta® 2006. © 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


We must all take off our masks and show our true selves. Maybe this had something to do with the original story of Adam and Eve discovering that they were naked and covering themselves (puting on a mask = FALSE PERSONALITY)

PLU ~ Bob

that is very interesting information Bob

latley i have been really doing some searching,trying to kinda take an inventory of who i really am !!! and boy ...
i have met some and gone to battle against some evil aspects of " I " THANK GOD FOR HIS PERFECT LOVE THAT TRULEY DOES CAST OUT ALL FEARS ... i have confronted my self in these matters ,and as i find them ,they are the enemy of my very essance, and they must die,here is where death is gain. God is so funny how he works,sometimes. in my life i have been dealing with people and issues ,that are hurtfull,YET the joy of truth keeps me from being crushed.and in having to deal with these EXTERNAL people and issues,it has shined a bright spot lite IN to my own heart and mind. i find it very HOT
and discomforting ....at the same time praying do it holy fire hotter higher burn that dross away burn me clean cleanse me for your glory,pour over me SOOTHING water of the holy spirt and HEAL me with the balm of your oil,shine me shine in me shine thru me i truley desire to be holy before him ,to be holy in him as he is holy in me and to reflect that
this is the desire of my heart


sopherim

sopherim7 wrote: that is very interesting information Bob

latley i have been really doing some searching,trying to kinda take an inventory of who i really am !!! and boy ...
i have met some and gone to battle against some evil aspects of " I " THANK GOD FOR HIS PERFECT LOVE THAT TRULEY DOES CAST OUT ALL FEARS ... i have confronted my self in these matters ,and as i find them ,they are the enemy of my very essance, and they must die,here is where death is gain. God is so funny how he works,sometimes. in my life i have been dealing with people and issues ,that are hurtfull,YET the joy of truth keeps me from being crushed.and in having to deal with these EXTERNAL people and issues,it has shined a bright spot lite IN to my own heart and mind. i find it very HOT
and discomforting ....at the same time praying do it holy fire hotter higher burn that dross away burn me clean cleanse me for your glory,pour over me SOOTHING water of the holy spirt and HEAL me with the balm of your oil,shine me shine in me shine thru me i truley desire to be holy before him ,to be holy in him as he is holy in me and to reflect that
this is the desire of my heart


sopherim

Soph - I can really see a great progression in your understanding and gnosis since you first arrived here just 3 months ago (20 Feb.).

As you let go of "christianity", your LOVE for YEHOSHUA will grow! Sounds like a contradiction ~ but it is true!

Yes EVERYTHING will eventually come to fruition!

PLU ~ Bob

{tears of joy}............. Thank you Bob, that is a blessed thing to say to me, i greatley appreciate the wisdom here
from you and many others here....

i believe you are right ... to find the true Christ , YOU MUST LET GO........... THE HARDEST THING IN THE WORLD is often times stretching your self outside the comfort zone ,giving one the space to continue growing, the roots have more depth,and are more secure, going from tiny sapling to a small tree, it reminds me of some recent gardening. when you transplant something, because it needs to be so it may live and grow ,like my tomato plants... it SHOCKED THE HELL OUT OF THEM 2 of them were unable to recover, the others have not only bounced back , but they SHOT RIGHT UP . and yes soon they will transition again to the out side and PRODUCE RIPE BEAUTIFUL FRUIT....these things take time thats why so many do not garden or preserve the fruits of their labor ,you can never eat it all ,what a good garden yields ,there will always be an excess when cared for right, and it is fertile ground,if you do not preserve it to feed from ,and along with sharing with your neighbors ,it will parish,rot decay and die ,....a waste

when we refuse to grow progressively our very roots are bound tightly together.until it strangles it self and prevents nourishment ................one reason change is so hard is because we must admit we are not with the program

sopherim

sopherim7 wrote:pretending and closing your eyes,letting the darkness consume one from the inside out ,there own ignorance is putting the blinfold on , and one choses to allow it. .........

Hello Sopherim
i think many people choose to forget who they truly are in an effort to work out whatever they're here to learn. Also, so many people are in such great pain, they cannot help but to live in fear and disconnect because they are trying to protect themselves. now, for me, i know this in my heart but it is a CONSTANT struggle for me to remind myself. i try to remember : *love* *compassion* *truth*
Blessings, Heather

hello heather, yes i agree ,that is a reason to pretend, to avoid pain and suffering in things they may not necessarily have any control of. that seems to be a defense mechanism,putting up barricades,shelling up with armour and balling up in a corner under the bed, to me it seems so natural sometimes to do that as opposed to pressing on . but i know that i {we}
are supposed to continue to walk in love ,joy, peace and understanding.this can only be done IN THE SUPERNATURAL CHRIST SELF WITHIN ,but still at times like a fool i choose to have self pity , that is so horriabley ignorant of me ,even though i do not wallow in it and camp in self pity , i find at times it hits me in waves of grief and sorrow,i cannot control it any more then i can control the waves of the ocean, so i need to rise above them.........something. i do not know and cannot grab hold of sometimes losing sight...............oops did i close my eyes again..................

sopherim

Sopherim... How warmly your welcome makes me smile. Your Spirit Holds a special light in my heart dear one. I know we all have a soul signature about us that is from the Father made radiant by the words thoughts and deeds of the Son.
I would like to extend also a very pleasant and Joyuos Mothers day for all that apply too.
At this Time in my life now the Spirit has lead me to live in, should I say in a very less populated area then before , being 60 miles outside of NYC before. I could pretty much find and apply any needed spiriutual gift with/in myself to apply, and live with others , to help, show, teach, laugh etc. Down hear is a world of differance. The High/ lows in Spiriual signatures are wider and fewer indeed although of not any less important in the Father. Also the joys found are well earn and are starting to take on new meaning for me, as before they were being taken forgranted by myself due to their abundance which have been made incircling.
I am learning many new things of his world just moving 700 miles. I`m learning more about myself then I ever could have dreamed. The Spirit is reminding me and showing me things for the reason of the soul and why we are hear. Like a refresher course in a new class.. Talking with you all here and sharing is a bit of a life line to parrallel Spirits that endure in the same.
The beauty in Nature down here is truly heavenly. I recall the scripture in Thomas where he says there is no deficiancy in the world, its in the hearts of men. That scripture can be largly understood and seen here, from the view point of myself and the Journey I have come through.
Our personal Identity of our Soul, for me is what I working on now to be built stronger with the Spirit, as has always been but not to this new moment of criticality...In short; Wake up Tom, due what you due best, that you know, for the father will love you always.

Bob also your words on Persona and the like are very enlightening indeed My Brother...

As The beat goes on.......
Peace and Harmony always

Brother Thomas.....