Numbers

Howdy Folks. Now I am not into Numerology by no means, the weegee board and all <---- see I can`t even spell it.
I truely am well aware of the Mortal aeon from the Celestrial one. But with the understanding this world was created from the knowledge of the parents (Elohiem) but not performed by them why some think its always evil. When we in oneness as our day goes on and we ,, well Christ has said Bring down Heaven to this plane, through the collectiveness of others in the now, for then we feel in all certainty of Joy. Now during this time, and is now we are at rythm with the Elohiem and signs can be given us through this world from them, or realy any watchers from above unto the Father.
I am setting a stage hear to ask a question within this context, Not realy saying what I`m seeing yet because it may interfere with its answer form anyone answering this.
I`m just curious actually;;;
Ok Has anyone been seeing over a period of time a certain Number or grouping of numbers, when you were not even trying to look for anything. I`ll just leave it there....

Much Happiness to you all
Brother Thomas

Sometimes, for a while I would see the "evil" numbers, y'know what they are. This would usually be during states when I was susceptible to fear, and would come about suddenly, not expected but should've been suspected, knida. The more I increas in faith the less I see those numbers, because even if I did, now I've faith in the good. Another spiritual shield, is Hope for the Good. So now I don't see these numbers as much. One time, I was doing yoga, and was stretching down, I looked b/w my legs and saw the clock upsode-down. It was 11:34 which spelled out "hell". That kinda scared me. Such "appearances" though keep me aware of illusion. Why did you ask this question, by the way?

Does anyone know what the number 5 signifies? Ever since I can remember this number seems to have been very significant to me ~ but I don't know why.

PLU ~ Bob

I also think i was seeing such #s alot b/c I was consciously and subconsciously looking out for evil.

Admin wrote:Does anyone know what the number 5 signifies? Ever since I can remember this number seems to have been very significant to me ~ but I don't know why.

PLU ~ Bob

I'm not an expert on numerology/sacred geometry. But I know a few meanings of the number 5.

It's symbol is the pentagon (like the Pentagon of the U.S military), pentackle and pentagram.
And the letter E - the 5th in the alphabet.

It symbolizes Man, and it symbolizes a man who has consciously developed himself and realized his human potential (6 is the next step though.)

It also symbolizes Will. True, independent will. (Not "self-will" or wilfulness.)

It symbolizes the power to create.

Heaven, or Paradise is also called the 5th dimension in one esoteric teaching.

A flower usually has the pentagonal shape. So does our hand. Which has 5 fingers.
And a human standing upright with arms and legs outstretched has the shape of the pentagon or pentagram; "the 5-pointed star".





And, 5 has also to do with "the golden means"/section and Pi.





All of this is connected with the science of "esoteric numerology" or "sacred geometry".
- The cosmic/sacred meaning of all the numbers from 1 to 10.

BelzeBob wrote:

Admin wrote:Does anyone know what the number 5 signifies? Ever since I can remember this number seems to have been very significant to me ~ but I don't know why.

PLU ~ Bob

I'm not an expert on numerology/sacred geometry. But I know a few meanings of the number 5.

It's symbol is the pentagon (like the Pentagon of the U.S military), pentackle and pentagram.
And the letter E - the 5th in the alphabet.

It symbolizes Man, and it symbolizes a man who has consciously developed himself and realized his human potential (6 is the next step though.)

It also symbolizes Will. True, independent will. (Not "self-will" or wilfulness.)

It symbolizes the power to create.

Heaven, or Paradise is also called the 5th dimension in one esoteric teaching.

A flower usually has the pentagonal shape. So does our hand. Which has 5 fingers.
And a human standing upright with arms and legs outstretched has the shape of the pentagon or pentagram; "the 5-pointed star".





And, 5 has also to do with "the golden means"/section and Pi.





All of this is connected with the science of "esoteric numerology" or "sacred geometry".
- The cosmic/sacred meaning of all the numbers from 1 to 10.

Does it mean that as the number increases from 1 to 10, so does the level of consciousness (or whatever)?

PLU ~ Bob

Admin wrote:
Does it mean that as the number increases from 1 to 10, so does the level of consciousness (or whatever)?

Hi Admin

No, not really. Not with the sequence 1-10 in the numbers and the geometrical shapes.

They refer to a certain unfolding of the Creation.

(I could recommend a book, but you wouldn't order it would you? (he he!))

At the same time, yes. This sequence, or parts of it, can be applied to human development.

The number 10 is ALL. At the same time 1 is ALL - or God.

The numbers 1-10 are God's potential so to speak. Everything created corresponds to one of these numbers or combinations of them. Sacred geometry is a full representation of ALL that is.

In the Fourth Way system "Man nr.7" is the highest level attainable by man.
In another teaching 6 (or rather the Star of David, the Hexagram) represent the fully perfected man.

But 8, 9 or 10 have no application there.

- 1 number isn't necessarily "better" or higher than another. Each number signifies a certain process.
And these processes can exist on many levels. And the geometrical representations of these processes can be found everywhere in nature.

Anyway, I'll recommend that book. It's the best there is on the subject. Actually, it can be good for children too - as there are exercises in the book for learning to make the geometrical shapes oneself. Here:



http://www.constructingtheuniverse.com/

http://www.phanes.com/beggui.html

http://www.amazon.com/Beginners-Guide-Constructing-Universe-Mathematical/dp/0060926716

BB

Thanks for the info BB. I doubt if I'll buy the book as it is not a huge priority for me personally.

I just bought a book which my son was begging for ~ "Beyond the Da Vinci Code" by Sangeet Duchane. He saw the movie (The Da Vinci Code) and has since been immensely interested in knowing all about the theories brought up there. So when he saw this book in the local mall, he couldn't resist it.

When I have time, I'll start to read it myself ~ it looks quite interesting.

PLU ~ Bob

theeternaliam, I thank you very much for your Honest view point in this, I do know, there are many more that see things with a subliminal meaning to each and every one of us. Your statement in the reduction of seeing the 666, when attuning yourself more to the lighter side of life, is exactly along the lines to the theory in which I have started to pose in this subject. Many see them, or in front of them in a wide variety of fashions, but were ones own Hearts view point is, attune is what we notice, or connects to our immediate consciousness. Something like after breaking up in a relationship and an appropriate number of songs seem to be there reminding us of our situation. This brings in a great understanding in how we as Body-soul-Spirited beings look at the world around and the great connection to it that reflects how we respond from it, and what we can apply to it in change or not. So to say the same scene in front of 2 people looking at it, like a water fall in the woods will have, two completely different inner and outer connections and living according to those perceptions.

Bob you brought up a question on the number 5, to my own sight and meaning over it as the number 5 as you know the Material sight of the written 5 in itself is just that, as to a computer. But as us triple composite being per say, I alone have just seen this in a multiple fashion that has much meaning to me as 5555 from the initial meaning and elevation from 1111 hence my screen name, and were this phenomena has started for me.

Theeternaliam You mentioned seeing this was keeping You safe or aware of the illusion. From a stand point that there is virtually a + & - factor in everything in the existence that we are in, ex; To much of anything is no good for you… that we and others all say and is true, this number can also give a Higher reason for not only knowing the illusion , But keeping oneself on a Righteous path, or any level in between for the point ones are at in it.

Jesus Christ told, of the 7 Angels watching mankind here and their specific reasons. Finding this knowledge was truly Blessed indeed and glad I continued to seek all there is, at that time and now. For each finding adds to itself and builds the shield of God in us. I will post the list here for others to know also gladly;

There are seven archangels who preside, under the Godhead, over all the affairs of mankind.

The first is Michael, who stands at the head of all humanity. He was the first of mankind, and from him have proceeded all nations. He is the Lord of Spirits, the Ancient of Days, the Exalted Man, who creates order from chaos and Light from darkness.

The second is Raphael, who presides over the world of spirits, where dwell the dead, who have not been resurrected. He holds keys of death and life, of healing power, of health and strength.

The third is Gabriel, who presides over the dispensations of the Priesthood. He watches over the cherubim, the seraphim, and the serpents who inherit the Light of the Firstborn.

The fourth is Raguel, who presides over those who have been lifted to worlds of Light. He is the father of the Faithful Multitude and the prototype of that Way of Life that leads to unity with the Eloheim.

The fifth is Uriel, who reaches out to those who stumble in the Path of Life, leading them to a place of rest, where they can be strengthened before continuing their journey.

The sixth is Saraqael, or Phanuel, who saves the penitent from darkness, so that they can live among the Eloheim in realms of Light.

The seventh is Remiel, who will lead mankind to the resurrection, preparing everything for the descent of the Son of Man in radiant Light. He is the Testator, who bears witness of the Father and Mother, and of their Divine Son. Through him, everything will be restored

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For Knowing and crying in the Fathers Gnosis within these truths, I see that these are those, through all realms available to them, come unto us, to carry out that which they`re creation is about, for the father. For ex; I would say your strength to know the illusion to which to more align your path, Might have to do with the Angels Raphael and Uriel. Many people you have heard and say, they have a guardian Angel. No, the fact is, they have many for each specific purpose to which is lacking or needed in, as we seek, on our journey.

So coming to the question of why do I ask? Roughly 15 years ago I started seeing 1`s like 111. 1111, and some times more but not usually. They do not come by thinking about them. But rather came to me in what ever way which had a written number Truck box number on the Highway , license plates, mostly digital clocks and things of the like. I was usually happy when I saw them, and after seeing them had a more of a friendly nature to them, still not even realizing the things I do now. Will after 12 years or so, and just taking it as a fact of life not realy wondering why anymore. I found a web site that was called the 11:11 phenomena… and found out with great amazement that there are literally thousands, possible 10`s of thousands of all sorts of people seeing the same number around the Globe. To me it is a spiritual reminder, like tapping on your shoulder that everything is cool, and you are loved. As I progressed in learning Gnosis, and found Christ scriptures with the Mysteries. Seeing these numbers more frequent happened, in fact I started seeing 2222, 3333,and all the way to 9999. But as I think now 6666 was never one of them. My strength in the fullness of Christ and the Father was diffinatlly proportional to the number I would see . As I still sought Gnosis and the great truths transcending things that are happening in this world today. While telling others of these things being as a dove about it, which gets rough, He then which I know now started to refine my answers to specific question I had with him throughout my day. Sometimes when I wasn`t even thinking along the lines. Like when I first realized about the crossing and 2012, in a complete or majority sort of way, I started seeing 1212, 1112, 2111 were the time, this is to occur is 11:11am on 21 2012 End of the age as per Mayan Calendar. As of now when these things come to me even today its not seeing so much the number only but some times there is a Gnostic message related in it that corresponds to My seeking. The 11;11 thing some say in it is a trigger that was related to our Spirits before ascending to the Mortal plane that would facilitate the knowing in our journey. So far I have not had any proof that this wasn`t possible.

I do know when I have talk to others about this, no all of them but some start seeing it also, in the same Fashion.

This is truly on the edge of Gnosis for me where I have never read any scriptures remotely even dealing with it, but it is happening to a large number of souls.

Thank you truly for your attentiveness and open mindedness on this subject, for creation is truly more vast then I ever thought possible at any time.

Grace and direction to you all

Brother Thomas


There is alot involved with this for others I haven`t had time to read, and Primarilary let the Holy Spirit lead me here only.

Prism1111 wrote:Bob you brought up a question on the number 5, to my own sight and meaning over it as the number 5 as you know the Material sight of the written 5 in itself is just that, as to a computer. But as us triple composite being per say, I alone have just seen this in a multiple fashion that has much meaning to me as 5555 from the initial meaning and elevation from 1111 hence my screen name, and were this phenomena has started for me.

I'm sorry, I cannot make head or tail of what you said here. Can you say it again? Please make it simple ~ I'm just a little child.

PLU ~ Bob

Bob truely sorry, sometimes I get 4 things coming at me in much ethusiasm to relate to others and try to do all four in one sentence.
basically I have seen multiple`s of 1`s, 1111 for quite awhile, when I found out that this was more than just me, gave me more proof that this was not a solitary thing but some sort of a Spiritual connection in some way, due to many seeing the same thing world wide.

But as I continued in the seeking of oneness for myself through Christ and His scriptures, and being enlightened to higher degrees of the celestrial knowledge that they seed. I also started seeing Higher multiples of Numbers that felt directly porpotional to the connection, being Self with God (Elohiem). So for me 5 meant, 5 levels (from my point of view in my journey) above that which I started or was based in, and lived for Many years without avidly seeking greater understanding as now. In Short My own gauge from God on my Gnostic journey in life. LOL. I realize this may be differant for everyone, and just my personel truth with Him, the way it is exspressed.

Bob the more I post in this forum, I recieve Gnosis and understanding in great degrees sometimes, it seems in an increasing level the more I post,as I`m writting also.

I Thank you truely for adhearing to an over enthusiastic Spirit in the Knowledge My friend. May I add, the levels of all the Souls lights here also, in many ways in ever revolving fashion has a much positive bearing on My journey and the overall feeling , as I`m sure it is simililar for others here. With proof being the popularity of this Board.

With that i`ll end here,,LOL and get a coffee...
In all feeling of Unity, and friendship and oneness.

Brother Thomas

BelzeBob wrote:

Admin wrote:
Does it mean that as the number increases from 1 to 10, so does the level of consciousness (or whatever)?

In another teaching 6 (or rather the Star of David, the Hexagram) represent the fully perfected man.

The Star David represents the Perfect Mind, the Tree of Life (although this is holographic); The male with the female, niether male nor female, the left with the right, the above with the below. It is the 12 tribes and their journey into the promise land lead by Joshua/Y'shua, it is the 12 Apostles gathered together by Y'shua on the mount of Olives, it is the Tree of Life which grows 12 fruits. It is the 6 polarities and the 6 center, which is the 4 triunes.

hi

what are "the 12 fruits"?

I'd also appreciate anything else that you have to say about the number 12.
(Please use references though.)

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