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HUMILITY

Post by Admin on Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:50 pm

This week begins the historic story of Moses being chosen to lead the great escape from Egypt. If you've read this section in the Bible or the Zohar, you know that Moses was the most unassuming, humble man you could possibly imagine. When God chose him to be the leader of the Israelites, he was the type of person to have responded, "Who me?"

How could the man who led 600,000 people out of slavery and who was the conduit for revealing the secrets of the universe have had such low self esteem?

As the Zohar explains, Moses didn't have low self esteem. He was simply humble. The kabbalists have always emphasized that the greatest virtue a human being can have is humility.

The whole idea is Moses wasn't perfect. His credentials for greatness were simply his ability to relate to everyone. This is something we can all aspire to become. As we fight to succeed in life, it might seem that it's the biggest and the best who wins. What Moses is teaching us is that a true success is someone who can put himself on the level with whomever he is speaking. That's what humility is.

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WISE MAN OR FOOL?

Post by Admin on Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:50 am

It is possible for a wise man to listen to the words of a fool and hear wisdom, while another man, who may possess a genius IQ but who is motivated only by desire to receive for the self alone [ego], may sit for years at the feet of an intellectual or spiritual master and not understand a single word.




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Re: HUMILITY

Post by DarkChylde on Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:44 am

This is very true. And a truth my ego causes me to stuggle with, beleive me.

It is like the verse that says, 'be ye as wise as serpents but as harmless as doves.' The serpent part seems to be no problem for me, but I get tripped up on the dove part... Razz

But I am learnin. We are all a work in progress (tho like Bob some of us have progressed farther than others.)
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Re: HUMILITY

Post by Admin on Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:31 am

DarkChylde wrote:But I am learnin. We are all a work in progress (tho like Bob some of us have progressed farther than others.)


Now this is very flattering for my ego ~ but believe me, I am still a beginner, and nowhere near disciplined enough. I do not do enough meditation - always some dumb excuse! My lower mind is still mostly in control.

You know, when one has been initiated by a Master, and does not put into practice what one has been shown, then I believe one's situation is far worse than for those who never knew at all. I mean, to waste such a valuable gift is really unforgivable!

PLU ~ Bob Very Happy

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Re: HUMILITY

Post by DarkChylde on Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:02 pm

***then I believe one's situation is far worse than for those who never knew at all.***

Well, you know what they say, ignorance is bliss.... (Makes ya wonder why there ain't more happy people) Razz
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Re: HUMILITY

Post by Unprofitable Servant on Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:10 am

Admin wrote:It is possible for a wise man to listen to the words of a fool and hear wisdom, while another man, who may possess a genius IQ but who is motivated only by desire to receive for the self alone [ego], may sit for years at the feet of an intellectual or spiritual master and not understand a single word.



From the Dhammapada (Ch 5 v.64-65):
Though all his life a fool associates with a wise man, he no more comprehends the Truth than a spoon tastes the flavor of the soup.

Though only for a moment a discerning person associates with a wise man, quickly he comprehends the Truth, just as the tongue tastes the flavor of the soup.

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Humility

Post by Prism1111 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:41 am

Bob writes:
Now this is very flattering for my ego ~ but believe me, I am still a beginner, and nowhere near disciplined enough. I do not do enough meditation - always some dumb excuse! My lower mind is still mostly in control.

Bob your honesty and Humility in expressing yourself and deep truths of yourself in these moments I Hold in the Highest respect with the Father. As You said Moses was able to relate to all people at their level which constitutes that degree of Humility putting others first, and even your own achievements second, even those of workings with Gods Gnosis.
I relate Brother in the same fashion, seemingly to trivialize each day with bottom dweling information that we see in all truth of it, makes the status quo go on in a ussual Dance of the daily routine. I have asked the Lord during these times also, what is it must I be doing, now that I know such things and still doing things as if I didn`t know. He relates , and says anything you wish, for others donot see the point of view you have attained in yourself but can, if that is your wish to. Have you not learned that starting from the point from which you are is necessary, to progress or even degress in the logos, and that is the real truth you have learned, for you and your brother, knowing or not. The Knowledge in itself has many flavors for ones to choose also if they wish.
Some are not even ready for unfolding these trues, some more than ready. Staying firm is time that is needed to understand and comprehend what your inner desires to manifest or transcend to others will be upon your wishes and efferts so You may Go as a Dove to them as Moses did. The serpent here is just depicted as haveing great wisdom in the knowing of these truths, being released to those that are ready to see "the right hand" protecting the those that are not for many reasons being "the Left Hand"
Bob what I have been seeing is that ones own personal Fulness, which constitutes many things as you know My brother, like relaxation from works performed, having the will and motivation to sustain a performance of them when ever or at times of choosing, just attaining or not the fulness from what one has done prior to come to the same fulness. Seeing a changing time and more or less deficulty in ourselves of allowing the light within us to make the differance we have seen before and wished for now.

This also has to do with the State of the overall love within the world that all thoose choosing to keep with the fathers Love, which in turn benifits those players of the contest (or holding firm to the truth untill the consumation).
I like a Phrase from Stairway to Heaven by led Zepplin " A new day will dawn for those who stand strong, and the forest will echo in laughter"

The quote of Christ; In the end days Love will wane in the world

So what we are feeling is the Multiples of many things within the oneness, But do not dwell on this as a solution but more of a reason to act.

In finishing here I remember reading, I think in Pistis sophia were when the total number comes into being needed as the 10 virgin Parable with the Prince (consumation) the trials upon the earthly realm and His choosen ones will be to the extent that all will cry out Father in one Voice, and in a twinkle of an eye it shall be. How Magnefissent that vision is indeed to imagine huh?

Before Comming here tonight Brother , I hadn`t a thought of what I was even looking for, but knew the Bliss that can be sojourning in the world with those of the same projection. After seeing your Honesty and Humility in Proclaiming openly, the spirit filled me to the Love and thoughts within me again. Yep after bottom feeding all day. Twisted Evil

The parents Know and love us always in the Father......Thanks for the Boost Bob

Brother Thomas...... Razz Basketball
M't:10:16: Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

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Re: HUMILITY

Post by Heather on Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:23 am

DarkChylde wrote:***then I believe one's situation is far worse than for those who never knew at all.***

Well, you know what they say, ignorance is bliss.... (Makes ya wonder why there ain't more happy people) Razz


lol!!! i'm gonna have to borrow that one Laughing

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Re: HUMILITY

Post by Heather on Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:29 am

Admin wrote:
DarkChylde wrote:But I am learnin. We are all a work in progress (tho like Bob some of us have progressed farther than others.)


Now this is very flattering for my ego ~ but believe me, I am still a beginner, and nowhere near disciplined enough. I do not do enough meditation - always some dumb excuse! My lower mind is still mostly in control.

You know, when one has been initiated by a Master, and does not put into practice what one has been shown, then I believe one's situation is far worse than for those who never knew at all. I mean, to waste such a valuable gift is really unforgivable!

PLU ~ Bob Very Happy

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Re: HUMILITY

Post by Heather on Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:41 am

BOB,
I know what you mean here, when one becomes aware of right and wrong it's difficult to overlook doing the right thing. i struggle with this quite a bit, but if you have this awareness than you must also know that you are treating yourself harshly. We all have multiple layers of awareness.
For a while,( and i still struggle with this) i was feeling angry and short tempered a lot. when i would get in that state, i would become angry w/ myself for being angry and it was just a vicious cycle. i talked to a very wise friend of mine and she helped me realize that the part of me which was so impatient and irritable was my child self and should be treated as a child. So, now when i get like that i try to take a step back and be patient w/ that part of myself as i would be patient with a toddler having a tantrum. i now acknowledge the anger and think compassionately toward myself. this has helped me a lot and i hope it is helpful for you I love you

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Re: HUMILITY

Post by Admin on Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:31 pm

Heather wrote:BOB,
I know what you mean here, when one becomes aware of right and wrong it's difficult to overlook doing the right thing. i struggle with this quite a bit, but if you have this awareness than you must also know that you are treating yourself harshly. We all have multiple layers of awareness.
For a while,( and i still struggle with this) i was feeling angry and short tempered a lot. when i would get in that state, i would become angry w/ myself for being angry and it was just a vicious cycle. i talked to a very wise friend of mine and she helped me realize that the part of me which was so impatient and irritable was my child self and should be treated as a child. So, now when i get like that i try to take a step back and be patient w/ that part of myself as i would be patient with a toddler having a tantrum. i now acknowledge the anger and think compassionately toward myself. this has helped me a lot and i hope it is helpful for you I love you


Thanks for that advice Heather. I know sometimes I am very impatient and restless, and have very little tolerance for fools/ignorance (including myself clown ).

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