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WORDS FROM A LIVING MASTER
by Admin on Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:51 pm
This is an excerpt from a public talk given by my Master:
Peace First
You might find my perspective a little different. I’m not associated with big institutions. When I travel, I talk to people—human beings. And sometimes that’s what we forget—who we really are. We get so caught up in our causes and definitions that we forget to see that each one of us has fundamentally the same ambition: to be happy, to be in peace.
When people talk about peace, sometimes I ask, “What does peace mean to you?” For many, it is an absence of something. They get away from the traffic, go somewhere overlooking a beautiful lake, and say, “It’s so peaceful.” Some people think that if you do something—climb Mt. Everest or accomplish something in life —then you will have peace.
What is peace? What was it like for Socrates or Plato to contemplate the idea of peace? They didn’t know about this war-torn world, the tanks, this and that, but they were trying to cope with problems not so different from ours. And their quest was to bring peace to every single individual.
So is peace something innate that resides in the heart of every single human being? Or is it a state that can be manipulated and brought about? When I talk about peace, I mean the desire for peace that has resided within human beings from time immemorial. And it continues. A voice for peace surfaces again and again, however many times it has been ignored by governments and world leaders.
Even in the face of that, the voice for peace continues to call. This is what we have to acknowledge, to listen to. This voice does not belong to a group of people or a country. This is within every human being trying to find that peace in their own way. That’s how powerful it is.
I say: Do not squelch that voice. Hear that voice, because that is the voice that sees no difference between the rich and poor, between types of governments, between an educated and a non-educated person. That peace is an innate need—just like water, air, food, shelter. People all around the world cry out for peace. I know. I meet with people who are extremely poor and extremely rich. And when they express their needs, it is obvious that what each one of them wants is exactly the same.
People look at the reasons and justifications for wars. It is time that we start looking for the reasons for peace. Because that has not been given a chance. And it is no accident that we find ourselves again and again at those unwanted thresholds. Nobody wants war. War inflicts the most pain on the innocent people who did no wrong. Their ambition is simply to have food, shelter, a better life for their family, a future for their children. That’s all they want. Going to the moon is optional; they don’t think that far.
Not long ago, I was talking to a taxi driver, and he said, “What’s going to happen to our children?” All he talked about was the opportunity to have peace.
This is the fundamental need that we have. Is it so impossible to look within for the solution? In times of trouble, when we have personal problems, we need strength, and that strength comes from within. Other people may be catalysts, but that strength comes from within us. Peace is no different. The quest for peace comes from within, and peace resides within the heart of every single human being. We forget our fundamental nature. And when we cannot see who we are, how will we respond to the needs of those around us? We are each a precious gift on this magnificent Earth. There’s nothing like it for billions of miles.
The other night, I looked up at the beautiful stars. I had seen a documentary on outer space and how violent it is: dark holes, planets, stars—violent explosions. Yet that night, it was incredibly serene. How could it be? Is it all a mistake? Or is there more to it?
There is more to it. In every human being, there is a want for peace. And as long as there are people on Earth, the need for peace shall exist. If we acknowledge that need, we will begin to seek peace first, then happiness will follow. That’s just my take on it from my personal experience, traveling and talking to people and trying to make it possible for them to find that happiness in their lives.
When people talk about peace, sometimes I ask, “What does peace mean to you?” For many, it is an absence of something. They get away from the traffic, go somewhere overlooking a beautiful lake, and say, “It’s so peaceful.” Some people think that if you do something—climb Mt. Everest or accomplish something in life —then you will have peace.
What is peace? What was it like for Socrates or Plato to contemplate the idea of peace? They didn’t know about this war-torn world, the tanks, this and that, but they were trying to cope with problems not so different from ours. And their quest was to bring peace to every single individual.
So is peace something innate that resides in the heart of every single human being? Or is it a state that can be manipulated and brought about? When I talk about peace, I mean the desire for peace that has resided within human beings from time immemorial. And it continues. A voice for peace surfaces again and again, however many times it has been ignored by governments and world leaders.
Even in the face of that, the voice for peace continues to call. This is what we have to acknowledge, to listen to. This voice does not belong to a group of people or a country. This is within every human being trying to find that peace in their own way. That’s how powerful it is.
I say: Do not squelch that voice. Hear that voice, because that is the voice that sees no difference between the rich and poor, between types of governments, between an educated and a non-educated person. That peace is an innate need—just like water, air, food, shelter. People all around the world cry out for peace. I know. I meet with people who are extremely poor and extremely rich. And when they express their needs, it is obvious that what each one of them wants is exactly the same.
People look at the reasons and justifications for wars. It is time that we start looking for the reasons for peace. Because that has not been given a chance. And it is no accident that we find ourselves again and again at those unwanted thresholds. Nobody wants war. War inflicts the most pain on the innocent people who did no wrong. Their ambition is simply to have food, shelter, a better life for their family, a future for their children. That’s all they want. Going to the moon is optional; they don’t think that far.
Not long ago, I was talking to a taxi driver, and he said, “What’s going to happen to our children?” All he talked about was the opportunity to have peace.
This is the fundamental need that we have. Is it so impossible to look within for the solution? In times of trouble, when we have personal problems, we need strength, and that strength comes from within. Other people may be catalysts, but that strength comes from within us. Peace is no different. The quest for peace comes from within, and peace resides within the heart of every single human being. We forget our fundamental nature. And when we cannot see who we are, how will we respond to the needs of those around us? We are each a precious gift on this magnificent Earth. There’s nothing like it for billions of miles.
The other night, I looked up at the beautiful stars. I had seen a documentary on outer space and how violent it is: dark holes, planets, stars—violent explosions. Yet that night, it was incredibly serene. How could it be? Is it all a mistake? Or is there more to it?
There is more to it. In every human being, there is a want for peace. And as long as there are people on Earth, the need for peace shall exist. If we acknowledge that need, we will begin to seek peace first, then happiness will follow. That’s just my take on it from my personal experience, traveling and talking to people and trying to make it possible for them to find that happiness in their lives.
"Those who say ‘they will die first and then rise’ are in error. If they do not first receive the resurrection while they live, when they die they will receive nothing." (Gospel of Philip)
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Re: WORDS FROM A LIVING MASTER
by BelzeBob on Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:27 pm
Admin
I know virtually nothing about your Master. But I can say this: that in the talk of his you just quoted I can find nothing to "disagree" with. May I know something more about him and his eventual organization of followers (/students/disciples - depending on your terminology)?
F.ex his name, where he lives and maybe books he has written. Or something about his background?
You have of course no obligation to reveal anything. People have different policies regarding this matter.
I believe in reciprocality, so I'll tell you a little about my teacher. I'll just call him H. He's Norwegian and lives in Sweden where he has the centre of his school (school - that's what we call it. It's not a physical school building.) He teaches the Fourth Way and has so for about 30 years. He himself was a 4W student in the USA in his time. I studied in that school for 8 years.
He is what we call a Conscious Being, or enlightened. I have no doubt. A very special man. One of his traits was that he always followed his ideals and "practiced what he preached". I have meet so many people in my life, but never another man like him.
Still he keeps a very low profile. For his own reasons, his own choice. He wrote a book "The Theory of Conscious Light", but it's no longer available in English. But maybe a newer, revised version in German.
He's not an average "Guru" that we find on the internet. I'd say less than 1000 people know who he is. Less than 100 understand him. That is, they can understand that he is a Higher Being.
A man who has developed himself to a very high level.
H. said about Christianity: "We shall work to become Christians".
And about Conscious Beings: "There are several* specially developed beings. And they know each other. And there are not two that are alike!"
(The Swedish word "flera" can mean "several" or "many".)
BB
I know virtually nothing about your Master. But I can say this: that in the talk of his you just quoted I can find nothing to "disagree" with. May I know something more about him and his eventual organization of followers (/students/disciples - depending on your terminology)?
F.ex his name, where he lives and maybe books he has written. Or something about his background?
You have of course no obligation to reveal anything. People have different policies regarding this matter.
I believe in reciprocality, so I'll tell you a little about my teacher. I'll just call him H. He's Norwegian and lives in Sweden where he has the centre of his school (school - that's what we call it. It's not a physical school building.) He teaches the Fourth Way and has so for about 30 years. He himself was a 4W student in the USA in his time. I studied in that school for 8 years.
He is what we call a Conscious Being, or enlightened. I have no doubt. A very special man. One of his traits was that he always followed his ideals and "practiced what he preached". I have meet so many people in my life, but never another man like him.
Still he keeps a very low profile. For his own reasons, his own choice. He wrote a book "The Theory of Conscious Light", but it's no longer available in English. But maybe a newer, revised version in German.
He's not an average "Guru" that we find on the internet. I'd say less than 1000 people know who he is. Less than 100 understand him. That is, they can understand that he is a Higher Being.
A man who has developed himself to a very high level.
H. said about Christianity: "We shall work to become Christians".
And about Conscious Beings: "There are several* specially developed beings. And they know each other. And there are not two that are alike!"
(The Swedish word "flera" can mean "several" or "many".)
BB
Re: WORDS FROM A LIVING MASTER
by Admin on Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:00 pm
BelzeBob wrote:Admin
I know virtually nothing about your Master. But I can say this: that in the talk of his you just quoted I can find nothing to "disagree" with. May I know something more about him and his eventual organization of followers (/students/disciples - depending on your terminology)?
F.ex his name, where he lives and maybe books he has written. Or something about his background?
You have of course no obligation to reveal anything. People have different policies regarding this matter.
I believe in reciprocality, so I'll tell you a little about my teacher. I'll just call him H. He's Norwegian and lives in Sweden where he has the centre of his school (school - that's what we call it. It's not a physical school building.) He teaches the Fourth Way and has so for about 30 years. He himself was a 4W student in the USA in his time. I studied in that school for 8 years.
He is what we call a Conscious Being, or enlightened. I have no doubt. A very special man. One of his traits was that he always followed his ideals and "practiced what he preached". I have meet so many people in my life, but never another man like him.
Still he keeps a very low profile. For his own reasons, his own choice. He wrote a book "The Theory of Conscious Light", but it's no longer available in English. But maybe a newer, revised version in German.
He's not an average "Guru" that we find on the internet. I'd say less than 1000 people know who he is. Less than 100 understand him. That is, they can understand that he is a Higher Being.
A man who has developed himself to a very high level.
H. said about Christianity: "We shall work to become Christians".
And about Conscious Beings: "There are several* specially developed beings. And they know each other. And there are not two that are alike!"
(The Swedish word "flera" can mean "several" or "many".)
BB
I do not like to reveal any personal information about my Master in public, as there are many who would damage themselves by their ignorant criticisms.
I can tell you that he is not widely known, and has not written any books. He currently lives in the USA but travels widely to talk of, and reveal the Light. He has disciples in most countries, but in the Philippines I think there are only about 10. He has been teaching for 42 years (since 1965) and is originally from India.
He rarely uses the term God in his talks, as he feels the term has been degraded by common use. He rather uses terms like inner 'peace', 'bliss', 'contentment', etc. ~ that which will fulfil our (Spiritual) lives. He talks mostly about our 'breath' being the essence of all conscious life!
I discovered him (or he revealed himself to me) in 1973. If you wish to read my story, take a look at the Introduction Forum ('Hello from Bob').
PLU
Re: WORDS FROM A LIVING MASTER
by BelzeBob on Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:04 am
Admin Bob
(I just recommended some books for you son. It's important to read books. I hope you approve of my recommendations!)
Yes, I respect your not giving so much info about your Master. That's OK. I've read your story about your experience. If you have any more quotes from your Master though, I'd be very pleased to read them.
I'm sure he's a very good man, as you are a very good "result". You have a very nice manner.
It seems to me that you are a man who is very honest with himself and good and sincere with those you come into contact with.
About people misunderstanding or criticizing teachers: "Cast not pearls before swine, for they shall trample them under their feet" comes to mind. Maurice Nicoll interprets this saying this way:
The pearls are wisdom. The pigs are the people who are unable to understand it. And they just touch this wisdom (the pearls) with their lowest parts, the feet. Which represent the lowest level of our minds. And so, the very low can never understand or appreciate the very high.
BB
(I just recommended some books for you son. It's important to read books. I hope you approve of my recommendations!)
Yes, I respect your not giving so much info about your Master. That's OK. I've read your story about your experience. If you have any more quotes from your Master though, I'd be very pleased to read them.
I'm sure he's a very good man, as you are a very good "result". You have a very nice manner.
It seems to me that you are a man who is very honest with himself and good and sincere with those you come into contact with.
About people misunderstanding or criticizing teachers: "Cast not pearls before swine, for they shall trample them under their feet" comes to mind. Maurice Nicoll interprets this saying this way:
The pearls are wisdom. The pigs are the people who are unable to understand it. And they just touch this wisdom (the pearls) with their lowest parts, the feet. Which represent the lowest level of our minds. And so, the very low can never understand or appreciate the very high.
BB
Re: WORDS FROM A LIVING MASTER
by Admin on Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:03 pm
BelzeBob wrote:Admin Bob
(I just recommended some books for you son. It's important to read books. I hope you approve of my recommendations!)
Yes, I really appreciate your encouragement for him to read more. He already has 'The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn' & also 'Adv of Tom Sawyer', 'Treasure Island', 'The Jungle Book', '20,000 Leagues Under the Sea', and 'The Wind in the Willows', all of which he has not yet read. But he prefers to play computer games and watch TV - the curses of the new generation! It's hard for me to stop him as all the other kids do it.
Yes, I respect your not giving so much info about your Master. That's OK. I've read your story about your experience. If you have any more quotes from your Master though, I'd be very pleased to read them.
I will definitely post some more quotes in the future. I have a lot of Video CD's of his talks, but they usually last for over an hour, so it would be difficult (time consuming) to transcribe and post. He also gives different (private) talks to the initiated, than to the general public. For there are some things which they would not understand.
I'm sure he's a very good man, as you are a very good "result". You have a very nice manner.
It seems to me that you are a man who is very honest with himself and good and sincere with those you come into contact with.
My Master IS - most certainly. I try to follow his example, but am always falling down. But I guess that is how we learn to walk.
About people misunderstanding or criticizing teachers: "Cast not pearls before swine, for they shall trample them under their feet" comes to mind. Maurice Nicoll interprets this saying this way:
The pearls are wisdom. The pigs are the people who are unable to understand it. And they just touch this wisdom (the pearls) with their lowest parts, the feet. Which represent the lowest level of our minds. And so, the very low can never understand or appreciate the very high.
BB
Yes, precisely.
PLU
Re: WORDS FROM A LIVING MASTER
by BelzeBob on Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:09 pm
Admin
What a pity your son doesn't read more. Let's hope this will change. Reading was such an important part of my life when I was a boy. Have you considered throwing out the TV?
(I surprise alot of people as I have neither TV nor mobile phone.) Well, I can't tell you what to do. I don't have children. But I know that if/when I have children in the future I am given/accepting a big task.
BB
What a pity your son doesn't read more. Let's hope this will change. Reading was such an important part of my life when I was a boy. Have you considered throwing out the TV?
(I surprise alot of people as I have neither TV nor mobile phone.) Well, I can't tell you what to do. I don't have children. But I know that if/when I have children in the future I am given/accepting a big task.
BB
Re: WORDS FROM A LIVING MASTER
by Admin on Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:01 pm
BelzeBob wrote:Admin
What a pity your son doesn't read more. Let's hope this will change. Reading was such an important part of my life when I was a boy. Have you considered throwing out the TV?
Well, living in the Philippines, Cable TV is a lifeline to the outside world. I like to watch BBC, CNN, etc. and my son does like the educational channels such as 'Discovery', 'National Geographic', 'Travel', etc. I do limit his viewing of movies. But when all the kids talk about these things, it is difficult for me to stop him from watching ~ I feel so mean when I say that is enough. And especially as he doesn't have many friends to play with where we live - all the kids here are watching TV, or playing on their computers! It is so different from when I was a boy and TV was not widely available.
(I surprise alot of people as I have neither TV nor mobile phone.) Well, I can't tell you what to do. I don't have children. But I know that if/when I have children in the future I am given/accepting a big task.
BB
Yes, it is an enormous task. I am retired, so I don't have to work, so I don't know how working people can actually cope!
PLU
