THE GNOSTIC WAY

Gray Ghost wrote:Whatever you say.................I think its funny as hell people want to embarass themselves like that. Know what they will be called if this so called prophecy fails to happen "False Prophets" and there are a ton of them out there.

Yes, indeed, all religions are merely made up of the false teachings of men. The Masters never came to start religions - but to try to put an end to them!

Religion itself IS a FALSE PROPHET (and making much profit from its lies !).

PLU ~ Bob

so true Bob!!!
i am also starting to think along the lines of your comment too passerby.BUT>>>>>>>> there is definatley a cosmic awakining happining..there is something comming . and i say this not really minding who thinks i am a freak. its a transition,
a shift that i feel no one can ignore, things are changing...........
sopherim

Religion itself IS a FALSE PROPHET (and making much profit from its lies !).

No truer words spoken than that..........Send your money to the Lord and they give you their address.........sick.

Gray Ghost wrote:Whatever you say.................I think its funny as hell people want to embarass themselves like that. Know what they will be called if this so called prophecy fails to happen "False Prophets" and there are a ton of them out there.

As you say their are a ton of them out there.. Do you actually know who and how many? It astonishing in that degree alone , even if one hasn`t done any research on their own.
All prior so called predictions have always been just a small group, class or belief of people saying a certain date with very few reasons for it.
This culmination of events that is transpiring, is agreed by every religion, every ethnic tribe accross the globe, every nationality, Hopii Indians, aztecs, Mayans, sumarians, edward Chase, einstein, Merlin, Nostradomis and 15,000 Scientists have Mapped the Milkway galaxy and its Gagantuious Energies by where our solar system is moving at right angles to traveling down, and intering the Masive Photon belt on Dec 21 2012, which is documented as the winter solstice, but also corresponds to the end date on the Mayan Calander long count, of 5200 some odd years long which was 100% correct telling of all the ice ages and such better than our own. The duration of passing through the Photon Belt of Pure Light is calculated to be roughly 1000 years long. Funny that number corresponds to revalations also. The Mayans also call this the great cross, or the crossing. There has been talk and much feeling of a quicking happeningn here. From a scientic stand point the closer we get to this 1000X energy ellivation to our system, frequencies such as the schuusmann resonance of our solar system will raise to facillatate that proof, and has been. In the scripture of Pistis sophia Christ talks of the increasing Cycles and the quickening of time that the Arcons will have to perform thier mischief. What should His followser see?:
M't:24:22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

See time is of this mortal world, and has nothing to do with Life within the Father. That goes on in the next level, what ever that may be. Remember Christ calls this a contest, just like a vidio game, This is level one. LOL cool Huh?

Also understand that the Mortal world is made in all image of the celestrial by the Parents of God too. So by manifesting mortal happenings through the minds and hearts of men, which have the power to do that on a Prophetic standpoint (free will again), as we in truth of the true oneness can override and alter this realm if we choose and gather the power in Him to do that, also of God. This proving God is everything, and all things are accomplished by Him through man, we have both worlds and the ability within us from Him.
also Cool... lol

So now may I say that the only proof there is that this date will not carry out something in some way is virtually none. Only assumtions that have no time in research on them. Or ones that fear looking at this kind of possible truth. This should show thoose that believe, how much we should be ready to detach from this world and live by His words alone when truly ready and needed.
M't:16:25: For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
M't:24:35: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Its very worth while to look into my friends, instead of believing all this by second party.
The oneness is Personal also..

Brother Thomas......

Its no more than the end of the Mayan Calendar nothing more nothing less....I got 200 to 1 nothing happens.......more hogwash someone read more into than was there....you always hear folks trying to predict the demise of many while the few try to discern if the many will still be around when the end comes....people need to lighten up for Christ sake.....if life here as we know it is that miserable to some people go lock yourself in a room somewhere with no connection to the outside world....you know the old saying be careful what you wish for you just might get it makes sense....oh, and Jesus has been returning the last 2500 years someone needs to give him a call and tell him hes late....sorry I did not mean to go off on a rant here and I am not attacking you....but junk like this gets old especially when there is absolutely no proof that this 2012 junk is etched in stone....which its not.

Gray Ghost wrote:Its no more than the end of the Mayan Calendar nothing more nothing less....I got 200 to 1 nothing happens.......more hogwash someone read more into than was there....you always hear folks trying to predict the demise of many while the few try to discern if the many will still be around when the end comes....people need to lighten up for Christ sake.....if life here as we know it is that miserable to some people go lock yourself in a room somewhere with no connection to the outside world....you know the old saying be careful what you wish for you just might get it makes sense....oh, and Jesus has been returning the last 2500 years someone needs to give him a call and tell him hes late....sorry I did not mean to go off on a rant here and I am not attacking you....but junk like this gets old especially when there is absolutely no proof that this 2012 junk is etched in stone....which its not.

GG.... There many things associated with this date that are etched in stone brother.
Like all Scientist /astrologers and astronomer agree by Proven observation and Facts and calculations within this profession that the Solar system we are in is going to pass into the photon belt of the Milkyway Galaxy on the winterscolstice of 2012 Dec21 , exactly the same date as the Mayans predisted the ending of thier Calander for this era, also their Calander of events has been 100% dead on, way more then the one we use today. This passing is going to elevate the Gravitational pull from the Milky way on our system by 10,000 times what we ever have experianced.
There are more connections then you know brother, I would suggest some reseach on this stuff before commenting for your own benifit, not ours. Most are seeing the truths that cannot be denied now, but a reason to contiue to seek the answer more clearly.
This is not doom at all, except for ones who see it that way...

Brother Thomas........

There are no truths in this junk just a bunch of numerology that does not amount to a hill of beans. Do you realize there have been over 200 predictions for Christs return or the end of the world. I ask how many have came true? Zero, notta...Y2K was suppose to have been the end did not happen....44 BC did not happen, so on and so on....so until some of this False Prophecy starts proving that its right and I am not talking about the occassional hit every now and then its just junk.....I take it for what it is whacked out foretelling that is steeped in history with no hope of ever materlizing.

Gray Ghost wrote:There are no truths in this junk just a bunch of numerology that does not amount to a hill of beans. Do you realize there have been over 200 predictions for Christs return or the end of the world. I ask how many have came true? Zero, notta...Y2K was suppose to have been the end did not happen....44 BC did not happen, so on and so on....so until some of this False Prophecy starts proving that its right and I am not talking about the occassional hit every now and then its just junk.....I take it for what it is whacked out foretelling that is steeped in history with no hope of ever materlizing.

Your wisdom in the sumation for so many is truly inspireing, everyone is entiled to their point of view. To bad it was so short.
May I ask what you yourself believes in or understands Sir?

Prism

Just a interesting note Brothers; with all this talk on the 2012 thing today, pro and con its funny How some stuff just happens at the same time. Just coming onto the aol server just now, the Headline story was This;
Thousands Expect Apocalypse in 2012 - AOL News

A survey was taken with 84% of 18,000 people believe something will happen then.
Very interesting indeed friends.

Peace be to all

Bro Thomas...........

You certainly may ask what I believe my good sir its like this.....a lot of folks are interpreting the Mayan Prophecy as a doomsday event which in all actuality its not....now something may happen in the way of change but as far as a doomsday event I really do not believe its a doomsday prophecy....Its like the Nostrodamus prophecy in the year 1999...in one of his quatrains he writes " in the 9th month of the year 1999 the King of Terror will reign from the sky" problem with this theory is at the time he wrote this September was the 7th month it was not until Augustus and Julius Caesear decided to have months named after them did it push September back to the 9th month. Now at that time you had to ask yourself was it July or September? Neither because it did not happen...these events if they happen are just random luck is all.Its hard to get a grasp on this with all the False Prophets that claim doomsday events....I think its an interesting theory but I do noot believe that anything will come of it....in my previous post I was not speaking for the masses that was my opinion just to clarify...

Prism1111 wrote:There many things associated with this date that are etched in stone brother.
Like all Scientist /astrologers and astronomer agree by Proven observation and Facts and calculations within this profession that the Solar system we are in is going to pass into the photon belt of the Milkyway Galaxy on the winterscolstice of 2012 Dec21

Is the Photon Belt fact or fiction SEE (CLICK) HERE

PLU ~Bob

Mainstream science and the Photon Belt


While the concept of the Photon Belt is a New Age
philosophy, some parts of the story can be analyzed scientifically.
There is no scientific evidence for the existence of any sort of
"photon belt".
A photon is the elementary particle
that makes up light. To the extent that such a thing as a "photon belt"
is physically possible, it would require the gravitational pull of a black hole, with light rays being bent around the black hole near the event horizon, forming a photon sphere.^[26] Barring interaction with gravity or matter, photons otherwise always travel in straight lines.
Alcyone
is some 440 light-years away, and the Sun isn't even travelling in that
particular direction. Thousands of stars are closer to us than Alcyone.
Saying we are "approaching" Alcyone is nonsensical.

Did you read this??? Comes from your link on Wikipedia........see I almost bought into it until I saw "New Age" that shot it down along with this paragraph above. I would also like to call your attention to this link:

http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

GG yes You are correct on Photons and their trajectory being straight . If One looks from the side of the Milky Way it is a disc with a bulge in the center with all the associated Lights colecting more at the center , but the Concentration of these lights together with their associated gravitational forces are the strongest at the Center or eliptic, which is what Our solar system is passing through at right angles to this tremendous engery differance. Also Steven Hawkings has talked about the Radiation impulses that is being sent out from the Center of the Milky Way were there is a Massive Black Hole, by the Mayans Named Hanab cue, Meaning creater to them. Most everything revolves around this point in there calculations.
But the only thing I`m trying to relate here is that there is going to be this passing to the ecliptic of the Milky Way by us... this is proven to be as the celestrial bodies movements coencide this. I also never said doom either, I see it as just the opposite actually.
This is just knowledge of the Mortal world, which doesn`t make it not going to happen, it means don`t worry about it. Follow God Spirit and either way is fine.

Bob I also seen that Wikepedia thing they have and I also disaggree Highly with that, I have herd much talk of it minipulating information on that to make things sound confusing to the reader, which that does indeed. I`ll see if I can get a beter site for it Bob.

Brother Thomas

Agreed.......glad we finally see eye to eye much better than debating I think.

The_Passerby wrote:The End Times has absolutely nothing to do with the world, but rather yourself.

I agree - that it's metaphor for a change in thinking. From a naive, deluded ego to a more perfected ego.

Modern era devil-religions are sort of like police. They protect and pre-serve ego delusion.

However - we need the ego. Life would be boring and advancement would be slow without it.

But - in order to have other experiences and to mature in the mind - ego must be suspended, short-circuited or caused to hang - from time to time.