What 2012 means to you

I realy didn`t know where to post this Subject becuase it is so wide ranging in its multiple understandings, meanings, subject matter, and forcommings. It transcends the scientific fact to Religious Completion, and every facit in between. it is in every traditional religion, culture and also correlates to Gnostics. It actually connects in esence the Mortal with the Spiritual also.

I just wanted to introduce this subject here, to see some gnostic opinions on it. If anyone has not heard of its proposed events in any way or wishes to learn more of the facts which are many.. Here is the main one on the Internet for 2012. It lets you decide and gives it to you straight, excellant site owner.December 21 2012, The official Website for 122112 Information

Have fun in the journey of thought...
Brother Thomas

Prism1111 wrote:I realy didn`t know where to post this Subject becuase it is so wide ranging in its multiple understandings, meanings, subject matter, and forcommings. It transcends the scientific fact to Religious Completion, and every facit in between. it is in every traditional religion, culture and also correlates to Gnostics. It actually connects in esence the Mortal with the Spiritual also.

I just wanted to introduce this subject here, to see some gnostic opinions on it. If anyone has not heard of its proposed events in any way or wishes to learn more of the facts which are many.. Here is the main one on the Internet for 2012. It lets you decide and gives it to you straight, excellant site owner.December 21 2012, The official Website for 122112 Information

Have fun in the journey of thought...
Brother Thomas

Hi Tom, the subject of "2012" has come up here once before, i.e.:

http://gnosis.forumotion.com/other-religions-belief-systems-f20/the-age-of-aquarius-enlightenment-t135.htm

I know very little about it, but take a look at this thread.

PLU ~ Bob

I know very little about it, but take a look at this thread.

PLU ~ Bob

Peace to you Brother, From my short readings of the things here and diffinatly want to read all of them before making any prolonged statement blindly here, with, giving the full respect due to knowledge and understabding that is already presented in some, I would like to say that You know more than most Bob. Along with the Spirit guiding me through Scriptures and even Mysteries which are a vastness in Celestrial understanding, It has also connected me with my original question 3 years ago about showing the full extent of the Veil for the Elect to be fool by.
Seeing that we are Beings not only of Spiritual make up and the vast eternal knowledge associated with that, we are also in a body that is or can be in Harmony, and or understanding of the Pysical nature of the Natural doings of the universe , and saying whether it is altered by other forces Man or Aliens entities(talking of dark forces acting within Men to facilate it) being everything is subject to men. whether Resurection or Damnation, of one or all. The mortal world is but a copy of that which is above or Invisible to Man,of the Parents design, so Mortal aeonic stuff lol <--- is that word? lol, should link perfectly with that. Seeing that our mortal and Spiritual bodies are exactly the same, eccept the regions they dwell in. Now to connect those two regions in Pure fulness and truth we have a soul with Mind, thus we can attain Gnosis with the Father for this to be expanded in.
At this point In relating, what is being related to me Now from the Spirit from all that which has already been, if I may , programed to Dicern and seek that which is sought.

So understanding the connection between the Body and the Spiritual Body which is the Inner most inner, one could rightly say there is a connection of the Mortal to celestrial connection to know of the Outermost outer. As Christ tells us we have the potential to know it all, for there is knowthing for man not to know, Truely enlightening Scripture indeed.
This is Vast knowledge and connections, and dicernable answers and facts of this Outer understanding, like we are trying to understand the innermost inner within our selves, Using Gnosis with, Gnosis also transcends the inner and outer also, along with just the outermost outer too, as the spirit has been doing this in Myself contiually. One would say this Doubles, triples or more the knowledge that can be known to the gnostic or anyone of Gods children while we are in this existance of Body-soul-Spirit. with understanding this one can truely see why we are in this fashion for his Logos better also.

Most of the world, as you know to be fact, to differant degrees is primarily concerned with just the outer, from coffee makers to Space exploration and Most things are hashed and rehashed within this zone, thinking they are going to find profound answers in it, the material universe.
You can now understand they will find incredible answers indeed as they have, for the grand design is set up to accomidate the positive expansion of all being, were ever that at in seeking, in hopes of finding the the answer (mysteries) of the father and whom they are. in other words something for everyone :-).

In finishing here for this part, I just wanted to express the reason or give credibility of speaking of it, and its importance to all of us now in real time, within the context of the Gnostic way.
I think of this Statement Christ said; For the prudent will see this things an act accordingly, the foolish will sit and it will be their poverty.
This enhanses my need to tell of these things to all our brothers, for the ones we love and have connections with and realy anyone really should know God and his Gifts for us all, before the train wreck of the mortal world fails hearts from thier not haveing the strength to endure. Also as He says, like the worker given more responsibility " More will be demanded of you" Those thata know and say knowthing.

So I pray find this reasoning worthy to understand within the boards Bob, I will give that which has be shown to me in dicernment with Holy Spirit and Direction of Christ.

Thinking is the best way to travel
Much peace
Brother Thomas

I feel that those who know don't tell, and those who tell don't know....

Besides, when you do, they only come after you with the instruments of torture, the big bonfire, you know the scene. Such indulgences are not allowed in THIS corner of the rock (planet earth), but social isolation is the rule for many when you come out of the heretic closet and not only contradict but COMFRONT established docterine and 'beliefs.' Ask Bob how grumpy people get when you try to wake them up....

I am learning the hard way (my way ) that many NEED thier religions(whether they'd be better off as religionists or atheistic types is debateable), they cannot handle the truth (explains why they didn't seek it) and it is allowed for them thier own path, tho it will take them a lifetime or two (or twenty) to walk it.... There is some story of Miriam (this is after Yeshua's death) and was teaching and preaching and some guy had come up to her and said he wanted the true path, and she looked deep into him and told him he would be better to learn the ways of his parents, which really bugged me when I first heard of it, but I now know that not everyone CAN handle the truth, the 'disturbed' part in the Gospel of Thomas speaks well to this, a warning that the enitrity may be too much for some....

I'm not contridicting anybody, actually (you believe me don't you? ), just my twisted and warped view of things......

DarkChylde wrote:I feel that those who know don't tell, and those who tell don't know....

Besides, when you do, they only come after you with the instruments of torture, the big bonfire, you know the scene. Such indulgences are not allowed in THIS corner of the rock (planet earth), but social isolation is the rule for many when you come out of the heretic closet and not only contradict but COMFRONT established docterine and 'beliefs.' Ask Bob how grumpy people get when you try to wake them up....

I am learning the hard way (my way ) that many NEED thier religions(whether they'd be better off as religionists or atheistic types is debateable), they cannot handle the truth (explains why they didn't seek it) and it is allowed for them thier own path, tho it will take them a lifetime or two (or twenty) to walk it.... There is some story of Miriam (this is after Yeshua's death) and was teaching and preaching and some guy had come up to her and said he wanted the true path, and she looked deep into him and told him he would be better to learn the ways of his parents, which really bugged me when I first heard of it, but I now know that not everyone CAN handle the truth, the 'disturbed' part in the Gospel of Thomas speaks well to this, a warning that the enitrity may be too much for some....

I'm not contridicting anybody, actually (you believe me don't you? ), just my twisted and warped view of things......

DarkChylde, I know the feeling very well you speek of. Bless you for being open in your thoughts of it also, most are not, that I tell many things to. For Me is, knowing with insight that the ones I tell these things to are good People and some well be literally knocked off the lilly pad so to speak, I was many time before untill I looked into my own deniel of things I questioned and came my way.
For a long time I wondered why I was such a radical in my life in the world. Well the Spirit taught me that too.
You mentioned why should one even tell of things as to bring torture apon oneself. lets see... it has to be done... some ones got to do it....I`m here for that purpose, if it comes to that extreme and Live my life to be ready for that purpose through Christ.as a Dove also, thats the rough part.. I agree its diffinately not everyones path indeed. As I became closer to Christ in his teaching, He help me forget the outcome of Truth that You say.. but concentrate on the whole truth and the father, thats the best it can get. Then have faith in the Father that He will be with you all the way through and after,, regardless of the soul belief of those you tell, thats thier job with the Holy Spirit anyway....what keeps one going on to do this? higher knowledge of Self within Christ and the Fatrher....its pure light in all its power, with a never ending limit. the only limit is what we choose for ourselves truly.

Thank you for asking
be blessed
Brother Thomas

I don't see any direct biblical connections.

listen to jack van impe

sopherim7 wrote:listen to jack van impe

hes a fake ocity no thanks

plus, he looks like some sorta secret demon, and his last name is Imp(e)
some television preachers are strange acting folks. Be wary of 'em.

lol ,i know his name is funny so is his wife,s. point being is this man says he has biblical truth so i referanced him for mr cha

DOOMSDAY 2012: End of Days

Here's an interesting video I found on the subject of 2012 - what do you think?

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecTE6lXI-m0&feature=related

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZUzFYwZlXA&feature=related

PLU ~ Bob

i have watched this, it does seem to make sense ,how they have put it

Its almost comical really when you look at it. I mean folks have been predicting the end of time for how long? 2000 years, longer? I often wonder if the dinosaurs sat around and debated their end time fate. I can just see it now two large T-Rexs discussing their dooms day prediction. Reminds of that TV show with the dinosaurs I forget the name of it. Why don't they worry about larger issues like people in this country starving to death, or the homeless why don't they put some of that money and mouth toward making it a better world instead of trying to predict its end.....they are never right and never will be..

There will be no end of the world, in the sense that people are thinking. The End Times has absolutely nothing to do with the world, but rather yourself. The world moves through cycles and intervals. The world is just coming into a new cycle, as we are on the cusp of the interval to that next phase in regards the earth cycle. This means things will occur, changes will come just has it has done since the world was situated, however this has nothing to do with a end of the world.

Whatever you say.................I think its funny as hell people want to embarass themselves like that. Know what they will be called if this so called prophecy fails to happen "False Prophets" and there are a ton of them out there.