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FLESH AND BONES

Post by Admin on Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:20 am

I wonder how many of you feel the same way as I about dead animals and humans. I have a phobia about touching recently dead animals and humans. I say recently dead because it does not seem to apply to stuffed animals that one might see displayed in some homes or museums.

During my life I have had the honour to care for a wide variety of different animals (pets). I love animals, and enjoy interacting with them, but as soon as the last breath (= Spirit) has left their body I can no longer touch them. This applies to humans too. When my mother died in 1994, I did not even want to see her body (and did not). I felt that I would rather have memories of her alive.

Now this is interesting as there are references in the Bible about not touching dead bodies - they are considered unclean and somehow contaminating to one's Spirit. Also the Bible is full of condemnation of the flesh. Is this a gnostic tendancy - avoidance of the physical/flesh?

It is also strange that when I used to eat flesh (I stopped in 1973, when I was 28 years old), I had no such phobia to it - perhaps because I was not consciously connecting it to an animal.

What are your thoughts on this subject?

PLU ~ Bob Very Happy

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Re: FLESH AND BONES

Post by The_Passerby on Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:53 am

Admin wrote:I wonder how many of you feel the same way as I about dead animals and humans. I have a phobia about touching recently dead animals and humans. I say recently dead because it does not seem to apply to stuffed animals that one might see displayed in some homes or museums.

During my life I have had the honour to care for a wide variety of different animals (pets). I love animals, and enjoy interacting with them, but as soon as the last breath (= Spirit) has left their body I can no longer touch them. This applies to humans too. When my mother died in 1994, I did not even want to see her body (and did not). I felt that I would rather have memories of her alive.

Now this is interesting as there are references in the Bible about not touching dead bodies - they are considered unclean and somehow contaminating to one's Spirit. Also the Bible is full of condemnation of the flesh. Is this a gnostic tendancy - avoidance of the physical/flesh?

It is also strange that when I used to eat flesh (I stopped in 1973, when I was 28 years old), I had no such phobia to it - perhaps because I was not consciously connecting it to an animal.

What are your thoughts on this subject?

PLU ~ Bob Very Happy


Bob,

I never ever touched an actual corpse -- be it animal or man. What I know of man is, that when a person first dies often the essence of a man in a form of attachment is still there, probably confused. They still have a connection with the body after a some days, in some instances -- some animals as well, but as I see it, the animals essence is the lower consciousness of a Soul who has yet to express itself into a life.

You probably felt anything about eating meat, because you were not sensitive to the vibration associated with it. Your body-mind was more so at that vibration -- so it was connecting to more of the same -- a voider/coarser vibration and the consciousness of the flesh probably didn't invoke you because of the impurity. But when you became a vegetarian, your body began to vibrate at a higher vibration -- it started to become a finer substance by reason of the fact that your cells began to become solidified through a alchemical process associated with the vibration of a living seed. So the substance of the plant, heightened the vibration in you. People don't understand that matter has consciousness, and a animal has a consciousness, and there is a consciousness associated with death -- and they ingest these things, which the consciousness of their cells become crystallized by. It would be my opinion that you began, in body, to vibrate at a higher frequency and became sensitive to what before wasn't because you had been conditioned to it from birth. Believe me, when I became a vegetarian for a while and someone in my family had chicken hidden in some prepared rice and I could not see it and ate some, the dull and coarse vibration I felt, I could not write anything spiritual for a few days and I felt ill. I asked them was their meat in that rice, because I KNEW it had to be because of the vibration.

As for scriptures mention, it more so referred to those who were mechanical -- asleep -- the dead in regards this world by virtue of their unconsciousness. As Yeshua said, "Let the dead bury their dead."

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Re: FLESH AND BONES

Post by Chukuma on Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:39 am

Admin wrote:I wonder how many of you feel the same way as I about dead animals and humans. I have a phobia about touching recently dead animals and humans. I say recently dead because it does not seem to apply to stuffed animals that one might see displayed in some homes or museums.

During my life I have had the honour to care for a wide variety of different animals (pets). I love animals, and enjoy interacting with them, but as soon as the last breath (= Spirit) has left their body I can no longer touch them. This applies to humans too. When my mother died in 1994, I did not even want to see her body (and did not). I felt that I would rather have memories of her alive.

Now this is interesting as there are references in the Bible about not touching dead bodies - they are considered unclean and somehow contaminating to one's Spirit. Also the Bible is full of condemnation of the flesh. Is this a gnostic tendancy - avoidance of the physical/flesh?

It is also strange that when I used to eat flesh (I stopped in 1973, when I was 28 years old), I had no such phobia to it - perhaps because I was not consciously connecting it to an animal.

What are your thoughts on this subject?

PLU ~ Bob Very Happy





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Hello, ABS. As far as touching a corpse, I have never been interested in doing so. I remember loved ones passing on and others clinging and or touching the gross body, but I never felt compelled to do the same. Once, as a youth, I touched the shell of a loved one and instantly felt repelled. I'd rather celebrate one's life than attend the common funeral where the body is mourned. I can truly respect your decision on not viewing your mother's body.

As far as flesh goes, I'd rather starve than eat it. I also have a strong dislike for alcohol. Both avenues are a means of enabling one to waste his/her oil by by excercising the 5 foolish virgins.



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