The Age Of Aquarius (Enlightenment)

Does anyone else here accept the hard fact along with me that mankind's consciousness can not be elevated by cosmic events, or a vain idea, or even an anthropomorphic messiah or God?

Apakhana, Greetings I`m going to have to agree and disagree with you if one can understand that, with this;

I agree to the point of making oneself open to outside or inside attributes that we exist in, is the prime motivator in giving ourselves the choice if we will change our level of being or understanding form those. Even God lets us know that, we are in charge our own destiney.

But By 100% our own power, I hope not or one most take care of the whole planet of your own creation. Or even worst everyone has a separate power in themselves to do anything they want and elevate themselves without any outside guiding power whatso ever... That would be the state of the world now wouldn`t it? Its called self will.

If a child sat outside a school and wished to learn without entering , thinking everything what he has is enough , he will be sadly let down untill he searches for help, all he had to do was knock.
He is only going to learn what he believes still, but now he has knowledge of many choices, that he had not prior from himself, but the potential was there.
This above Parable if you will is based on the celestrial learning of the Spirit.

Just yesterday I was talking to a Blessed friend in the Spirit of God and as I was talking and explaining something I felt the day before, The Holy Spirit came and I broke down crying on the phone for that reason alone, with no knocking at all, and it was not my Spirit but was of me that I knew. Only because My heart was open To the Father at that time.

But seeing we are in charge of our own destiney is something few understand and believe in the world.

Much Peace and unity

Brother Thomas

What you explain, Apakhana, sounds like a ridiculous game an archon would create. All those ridiculous practices a person must do to achieve personal salvation seems to me to be a pridefilled trap. Honestly, if you were God, would you not offer salvation as a Gift? I'm not saying there is absolutely no effort involved for the Kingdom of Heaven to "appear",(I'm not saying there is, either), in fact, I practiced energy work and such before as well. I even had "core intercourse with The Mother"(I'm not fully sure why my mind called it that, but it felt like a sort of orgasm through all "my chakras", during meditation on refinement of internal energy, I've never fully explained this, perhaps you could??)

I just believe in an omnipotent, All-Good God, and I don't think He would force us to go around and around until we(seemingly by fate),"get it". These ideas seem to me to come from demons,but I do feel the thoughts and emotions they invoke have a purpose hidden from those who presently feel that way. I don't think sex-magick and any so-called magick "effect" is the end in itself, but really something for those who practice it to eventually learn from as long as thay're open to the Teaching. What I mean, is don't get caught by ridiculous teachings, they are simply ideas to invoke certain feelings for one to learn from and gain Spiritual Gifts such as Faith,Hope,Elflessness,etc. This is what I feel "The Mysteries" were and are about. I hope you get my train of thought here

Also, perhaps cosmic events are effected by the elevated consciousness of Man.

Hi Prism,

Good post, I understand your point. As I understand though, mankind's situation, that being it's current fallen state, is our own fault.
We do not see truth through what we identify with.
"God's" gift to us is that we get the chance to live life, to enter that school you spoke of, and rectify ourselves by doing our great internal work to find truth which is only arrived at through gnosis (context: experience).
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Hi theeternaliam,

I know, it's revolutionary and some people are afraid of it, but that's what Samael Aun Weor taught. I don't "think" or "believe" it, or anything, one can only "know" via experience.

It seems that you are included in the majority that respond badly to what he taught. Most people disagree wit it but really, what do we know?

Samael Aun Weor recieved alot of info from beings in the astral dimension. We all know that it's easy to be decieved, especially from astral entities we are not familiar with.

I realize just how limiting belief can be too though. Although we have a choice to believe anything, if one only believes in something without experiencing what is, then that's all you will ever do - theorize and not "know."

I also agree that teachers sometimes say things that may not be true just so we can learn from the feelings and thoughts of what they say conjures inside us.

Thanks for your posts!

Apakhana wrote:I know, it's revolutionary and some people are afraid of it, but that's what Samael Aun Weor taught. I don't "think" or "believe" it, or anything, one can only "know" via experience.

It seems that you are included in the majority that respond badly to what he taught. Most people disagree wit it but really, what do we know?

Samael Aun Weor recieved alot of info from beings in the astral dimension. We all know that it's easy to be decieved, especially from astral entities we are not familiar with.

Borborites (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia):

According to the book Panarion, by Epiphanius of Salamis, and Theodoret's Haereticarum Fabularum Compendium, the Borborites were a libertine Gnostic ophite sect. The word "borborite" comes from the Greek word borboros which means "mud"; thus "borborites" could be translated as "filthy ones."

Epiphanius says the Borborites were inspired by Sethianism, and had as a distinct feature of their rituals elements of sexual sacramentalism, including smearing of hands with menstrual blood and semen, and consumption of the same as a variant of eucharist. They were also said to extract fetuses from pregnant women and consume them, particularly if the women accidentally became pregnant during related sexual rituals.

As all these tellings about the Borborites come from their opponents, it is unknown if they are true or exaggerated. Stephen Gero finds them plausible and connected with earlier Gnostic myths.

It is unlikely they would have called themselves Borborites, yet this, their alternative names, and the descriptions of their beliefs, reveals a connection to Barbelo. Some of the Gnostic scriptures have been called Barbeloite because of her appearance in them, such as the Apocryphon of John and Trimorphic Protennoia. The last of these seems to have undergone Sethian revision and although similar, fully Sethian texts have their own distinct perspective - maybe suggesting some Sethians were inspired by Barbeloite writings. These writings do not mention any sexual rituals but neither any moral codes. The Trimorphic Protennoia does describe the divine as a sexual being but being a highly esoteric work leaves much to the imagination.

If the Barbelo gnostics were libertines and these are their writings then the unfriendly account of Epiphanius has to be contrasted with the elegant spiritual writings they produced. Also he was presumably not speaking from first hand knowledge, so most scholars assume, and he claims to have run away from the gnostic women who reproached him thus: 'We have not been able to save the young man, but rather, have abandoned him to the clutches of the ruler'

Epiphanius later reported the group to the bishops and went through the church resulting in the expulsion of around 80 people from the city of Alexandria.
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Ancient so-called 'gnostic' sects obviously encompassed many different ideas and customs. What is Spiritual Truth (genuine gnosis) and what are lies (pseudo-gnosis) is a matter for each individual to discover.

PLU ~ Bob

Epiphanius says the Borborites were inspired by Sethianism, and had as a distinct feature of their rituals elements of sexual sacramentalism, including smearing of hands with menstrual blood and semen, and consumption of the same as a variant of eucharist. They were also said to extract fetuses from pregnant women and consume them, particularly if the women accidentally became pregnant during related sexual rituals.
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Bob, reading your post on the Borborites and especially the ritual phase they partook in, It came to mind what Christ says in Pistis Sophia below for those who haven`t read it yet.

Thomas said: "We have heard that there are some on the earth who take the male seed and the female monthly blood, and make it into a lentil porridge and eat it, |387. saying: 'We have faith in Esau and Jacob.' Is this then seemly or not?"

Jesus was wroth with the world in that hour

p. 322

Of the chastisement of a foul act of sorcery.and said unto Thomas: "Amēn, I say: This sin is more heinous than all sins and iniquities. Such men will straightway be taken into the outer darkness and not be cast back anew into the sphere, but they shall perish, be destroyed in the outer darkness in a region where there is neither pity nor light, but howling and grinding of teeth. And all the souls which shall be brought into the outer darkness, will not be cast back anew, but will be destroyed and dissolved."



Its amazing how paralleling His teaching was to ones that came before and even of today..Just wanted to bring a correlation of this to mind.

peace and unity.........Br Thomas

...take the male seed and the female monthly blood, and make it into a lentil porridge and eat it

EWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only in the illusion can filth exist. What a strange world this is. I wonder if it was some sort of tantric practice for them. Going against their own inhibitions. I belive in doing this, but not by participating in immorality, but instead performing moral actions one would normally be repulsed by. Like "turning the other cheek", or giving more than expected. Maybe they performed such deeds b/c they recognized their Incorruptible Nature, but to perform such things just because of that is foolish(Do not tempt the Lord, thy God) and is probably some sort of trap(putting them in a certain mind set) they'll need to be pulled out of.

I find it strange, though, that we live in a world where such repulsion can exist. It's all just psychic energy, anyways, right?

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Apakhana wrote:I know, it's revolutionary and some people are afraid of it, but that's what Samael Aun Weor taught. I don't "think" or "believe" it, or anything, one can only "know" via experience.

It seems that you are included in the majority that respond badly to what he taught. Most people disagree wit it but really, what do we know?

Samael Aun Weor recieved alot of info from beings in the astral dimension. We all know that it's easy to be decieved, especially from astral entities we are not familiar with.

Borborites (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia):

According to the book Panarion, by Epiphanius of Salamis, and Theodoret's Haereticarum Fabularum Compendium, the Borborites were a libertine Gnostic ophite sect. The word "borborite" comes from the Greek word borboros which means "mud"; thus "borborites" could be translated as "filthy ones."

Epiphanius says the Borborites were inspired by Sethianism, and had as a distinct feature of their rituals elements of sexual sacramentalism, including smearing of hands with menstrual blood and semen, and consumption of the same as a variant of eucharist. They were also said to extract fetuses from pregnant women and consume them, particularly if the women accidentally became pregnant during related sexual rituals.

As all these tellings about the Borborites come from their opponents, it is unknown if they are true or exaggerated. Stephen Gero finds them plausible and connected with earlier Gnostic myths.

It is unlikely they would have called themselves Borborites, yet this, their alternative names, and the descriptions of their beliefs, reveals a connection to Barbelo. Some of the Gnostic scriptures have been called Barbeloite because of her appearance in them, such as the Apocryphon of John and Trimorphic Protennoia. The last of these seems to have undergone Sethian revision and although similar, fully Sethian texts have their own distinct perspective - maybe suggesting some Sethians were inspired by Barbeloite writings. These writings do not mention any sexual rituals but neither any moral codes. The Trimorphic Protennoia does describe the divine as a sexual being but being a highly esoteric work leaves much to the imagination.

If the Barbelo gnostics were libertines and these are their writings then the unfriendly account of Epiphanius has to be contrasted with the elegant spiritual writings they produced. Also he was presumably not speaking from first hand knowledge, so most scholars assume, and he claims to have run away from the gnostic women who reproached him thus: 'We have not been able to save the young man, but rather, have abandoned him to the clutches of the ruler'

Epiphanius later reported the group to the bishops and went through the church resulting in the expulsion of around 80 people from the city of Alexandria.
-------------------------------------------------------

Ancient so-called 'gnostic' sects obviously encompassed many different ideas and customs. What is Spiritual Truth (genuine gnosis) and what are lies (pseudo-gnosis) is a matter for each individual to discover.

PLU ~ Bob

Lol I would be careful about taking their word for it. They could've read some text by them and interpreted it literally. They made up a whole bunch of stories involving Valentinus, he was in a ship wreck and bumped his head, thus becoming mentally disordered/crazy and created his doctrine... lol, others he got so mad that he lost the running to become bishop of Rome, that he fall into a vengeful and depressive state and run away from Rome and created his doctrine in in anger that he was not chosen as Bishop. lol Then at the same time they say he was one of the most pure and intelligent of individuals they had seen in Rome, or that was his reputation. So Taking the word of some of those 3rd-4rd century church fathers one has to keep in mind their mindset and agenda.

Apakhana wrote:

...take the male seed and the female monthly blood, and make it into a lentil porridge and eat it

EWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree intirely ... LOLOL I said wow all the more reason to stay clear of the dark side, or traditions aay?

By the way You are really in Antactica.. that is like so cool,, well probably cold LOL...Good for you..do it when your Young, I couldn`t do that now without alot of Prep.

Br Thomas