Intro

Admin wrote:

Composer wrote:Who is Samael Aun Weor?

Is he connected to your group?

No, he is in no way connected to me or to this forum. I personally consider him to be a false teacher. But I speak only for myself on this.

Incidentally, I was also banned from his forum.

PLU ~ Bob

I have read some stuff this fellow wrote...talk about out there......

sopherim7 wrote: composer, i wrote what i did after reading on the forum you gave me a link to.... and that is what appalled me what was said there that YOU BROUGHT HERE!
as my hello was very nice.BEING A HYPOCRITE , where was i? i said i dont mean to be but i am going to ..... is not a hypocracy. i spoke openley and honestly about what i read on that forum i did not want to be an agressor ... but i felt it needed to be done ,not that any one needs my defense
your little smilie..... yea that proves you got what you wanted ENTERTAINMENT FOR YOUR OWN BENIFIT now can i ask you
HOW IS THAT CHRIST LIKE?? and not to mention it also proves you came JUST TO START TROUBLE..

The little smilie is meant to portray that I am most willing to participate in any rational discussion and my enthusiasm to get answers to my questions etc is portrayed by the popcorn image that I am hungrily awaiting the discussion to commence and my questions answered or both.

sopherim7 wrote: as i said
i would PREFER to speak to you as a rational adult about the things of GOD AND HIS LIVING WORD WHO IS CHRIST and debate theology matters,,, so i will APOLOGISE TO YOU AS THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS CONVICTED MY HEART AND SHOWED ME YOU ARE HERE FOR HIS PURPOSE. so i will wait on him to show it.and again tell you that i am sorry for being aggressive and giving in to the enemy,
i have read further on that site as far as the doctrine and will continue as it has me curious..... i do not find it very sound and would like to discuss some key points with you

sopherim

Please present your key points and please always provide accurate sources as I always try to do.

The Holy Spirit told you or your Hindu Guru Master told you, doesn't legitimately qualify. The Bible is God's Living Word.

Thank you

Composer wrote:The Holy Spirit told you or your Hindu Guru Master told you, doesn't legitimately qualify.

Probably a lot of pagans / Gentiles 2,000 years ago said those very words to the original Apostles of Yehoshua, e.g. "The Holy Spirit told you or your Jewish Rabbi Master told you, doesn't legitimately qualify."

Can't you see that you are acting just like them?

The Bible is God's Living Word.

No! What you should say is that "IN MY OPINION" or "I BELIEVE THAT" the Bible is God's Living Word. Only certain people believe that - and there is absolutely no evidence to PROVE that that is true! In fact, for any book or printed words to be LIVING is a complete nonsense. It is only the SPIRIT which LIVES and gives LIFE!

PLU ~ Bob

composer, i always back my self up with scriptue, did you not read thru my post on the living master thread?

any way i have asked that we possibly could talk and debate as christ like adults....
to let you know i go to a christian and missonary alliance church and many bible studies along with prayer meeting
every week. i read the new king james and the living bible i love the scriptures , my question is why have you not responded to
the post about the holy spirit gifts on the masters page.... lets discuss the theology of that please do not be such a jerk in the human sense and ego tisticle and self rightous be humble and ready to listen and we or at least i as i cannot speak for all but i bet all would agree, we would be more responsive and ready to hear you .but your BOMBASTIC attitude makes it very difficult as it is very unlike the peace of christ we enjoy here,

sopherim

Composer,
I will welcome you here altho with some trepidation truly.

The LIVING WORD of the LIVING GOD is not dead words by long dead writers in a non-living book. There are many here who feel that way.

Please do not come to a group with 'intentions', please do not try to 'show us the light,' most of us know it firsthand, not by heresay as most who ascribe to the idea that some book with pages and chapters could possibly contain the words of the ONE.

We are not false teachers (a term Christ NEVER uses) and I don't consider your 'teachings' to be false, they are true to your perspective. While I don't agree with you, I don't consider you 'wrong.'

But let us look at the fruits of the tree. You get one person expressing thier feelings and, I guess since you felt you were attacked, you attack back. This is a clear indication of a very juvenile degree of spirituality. You are not among kindred spirits here, I doubt, and you may experience some of what CARM has been dishing out to Bob for so long. But since you come here with the obvious idea that we are all wrong and only you are right, I wonder as to your intentions Is that what you came here for? You must know SOMETHING about Bob and his beleifs, you OBVIOUSLY don't agree with them, yet you are here. Why? To anklebite Bob? Or to try to lead us all to your light? (which considering your actions here no longer than you have been here it is NOT a light that I want to be a part of, if it makes me like you.)

So I ask again, why exactly are you here?

Btw, I am a Valentian gnostic. SHOULD you like some info on us, here is a link: http://www.gnosis.org/library/valentinus/index.html

DarkChylde wrote:Composer,
I will welcome you here altho with some trepidation truly.

the LIVING WORD of the LIVING GOD is not dead words by long dead writers in a non-living book. THere are many here who feel that way.

Please do not come to a group with 'intentions', please do not try to 'show us the light,' most of us know it firsthand, not by heresay as most who ascribe to the idea that some book with pages and chapters could possibly contain the words of the ONE.

We are not false teachers (a term Christ NEVER uses) and I don't consider your 'teachings' to be false, they are true to your perspective. While I don't agree with you, I don't consider you 'wrong.'

But let us look at the fruits of the tree. You get one person expressing thier feelings and, I guess since you felt you were attacked, you attack back. This is a clear indication of a very juvenile degree of spirituality. You are not among kindred spirits here, I doubt, and you may experience some of what CARM has been dishing out to Bob for so long. But since you come here with the obvious idea that we are all wrong and only you are right, I wonder as to your intentions Is that what you came here for? You must know SOMETHING about Bob and his beleifs, you OBVIOUSLY don't agree with them, yet you are here. Why?

Hi DC
You have missed a lot of the "fireworks" over the last few days. Composer posted a thread insulting and abusing my Master, which I have now removed from the forum. Also, in order to stop any more such abuse, I have banned him from this site. I really do not like taking such drastic action, but such people as he do not belong here.

Hope everyone understands.

PLU ~ Bob

bob, i for one DO understand. you were right in your action!!!!!!!!!!!!
this guy is an enemy of truth and the light within it ,he is a dark cloud

Dang, I love fireworks! Guess that is the price I have to pay to not be connected at home anymore, and to only get on once or twice a week. (I can only get on in town, and thanx to the every rising gas prices I those times are becoming less and less frequent.)


That is why I asked his intention in coming on this forum, I suspected he was no seeker, unless you include seeking for a fight. And that is not why we are here.

Unfortunately, we may run into this alot. I was afraid he was only here to anklebite Bob. I don't usually agree with such measures, but otherwise the whole site will be littered with such crap and nonsense, and there are PLENTLY of places for his bile.

Such a shame. But to be expected, I guess.

DarkChylde wrote:Dang, I love fireworks! Guess that is the price I have to pay to not be connected at home anymore, and to only get on once or twice a week. (I can only get on in town, and thanx to the every rising gas prices I those times are becoming less and less frequent.)


That is why I asked his intention in coming on this forum, I suspected he was no seeker, unless you include seeking for a fight. And that is not why we are here.

Unfortunately, we may run into this alot. I was afraid he was only here to anklebite Bob. I don't usually agree with such measures, but otherwise the whole site will be littered with such crap and nonsense, and there are PLENTLY of places for his bile.

Such a shame. But to be expected, I guess.

You are right. Genuine gnosis has ALWAYS been attacked and rejected by the masses. If we were not attacked here, then I would suspect that there was something wrong. I guess we should be happy that they are not burning us at the stake right now.

PLU ~ Bob

Admin wrote:

DarkChylde wrote:Dang, I love fireworks! Guess that is the price I have to pay to not be connected at home anymore, and to only get on once or twice a week. (I can only get on in town, and thanx to the every rising gas prices I those times are becoming less and less frequent.)


That is why I asked his intention in coming on this forum, I suspected he was no seeker, unless you include seeking for a fight. And that is not why we are here.

Unfortunately, we may run into this alot. I was afraid he was only here to anklebite Bob. I don't usually agree with such measures, but otherwise the whole site will be littered with such crap and nonsense, and there are PLENTLY of places for his bile.

Such a shame. But to be expected, I guess.

You are right. Genuine gnosis has ALWAYS been attacked and rejected by the masses. If we were not attacked here, then I would suspect that there was something wrong. I guess we should be happy that they are not burning us at the stake right now.

PLU ~ Bob

DC, I hear ya on the gas thing, I was reading an article that a congressman from NY is posing legislation for a 4 day work week for long Island to eleviate 20% of the traffic and congestion and fuel. yaa composer was quite a lose cannon huh? almost seemed an designed agitator.


Bob ... I now your kinda joking when you talk about burning at the stake thing. lol but I do get a slight sence truthful Gnosis in what you say as a preemptive warning of comming times to be watchful of. The light seems to glow alittle broghter in us with that indeed huh?

Br. Thomas

hi guys,

maby here is not the place but im gonna say it any way.d.c and prism you guys are ROCKEN RIGHT ON!
AS BOB DYLAN SAYS.... its a hard...its a hard ,,,, its a hard rain gonna fall. the time is nigh . i am sure i am not the only single working mother who might have to quit her job because gas here is 4.15 in upstate ny where i live.i cannot pay for any thing else out of my pay check right now as i have to drive 28 miles a day to work ina jeep. and cannot afford
a different car. i recieve child support and that pys my bills for now along with peddiling arts and crafts at festivels and flea markets, and 2 house keeping jobs that i had to drop cause it costs more then i make to go to them. there is no public transportation where i live either, as i said , i live on a moutian in the woods,my house is paid for, i have no cable just phone ,dsl , electric , and i heat with wood, that still only cost me 750 last year it was 75 degress in here all winter.and land taxes which are going up cause city people are moving up left and right ,they are going up along with scholl taxes. still they are only 1200 a year.

to me it seems as the government is turning the majority of american people in to slaves as we have to turn to assistance programs such as medicade and food stamps and other such things.

we are all in this huge bubble that is gonna push its limits until it pops and BOY IT WILL BE VERY VERY VERY MESSY WHEN IT DOES

that is why i am so glad that we live and walk in the light and tryth of CHRIST for thru him in us we will have the strenghth .i really think our faith will be tested and prosicuted . i also think this is when the weak become the strong

i dont know guys .......all i know is my hope is in the lord

sopherim7 wrote:hi guys,

maby here is not the place but im gonna say it any way.d.c and prism you guys are ROCKEN RIGHT ON!
AS BOB DYLAN SAYS.... its a hard...its a hard ,,,, its a hard rain gonna fall. the time is nigh . i am sure i am not the only single working mother who might have to quit her job because gas here is 4.15 in upstate ny where i live.i cannot pay for any thing else out of my pay check right now as i have to drive 28 miles a day to work ina jeep. and cannot afford
a different car. i recieve child support and that pys my bills for now along with peddiling arts and crafts at festivels and flea markets, and 2 house keeping jobs that i had to drop cause it costs more then i make to go to them. there is no public transportation where i live either, as i said , i live on a moutian in the woods,my house is paid for, i have no cable just phone ,dsl , electric , and i heat with wood, that still only cost me 750 last year it was 75 degress in here all winter.and land taxes which are going up cause city people are moving up left and right ,they are going up along with scholl taxes. still they are only 1200 a year.

to me it seems as the government is turning the majority of american people in to slaves as we have to turn to assistance programs such as medicade and food stamps and other such things.

we are all in this huge bubble that is gonna push its limits until it pops and BOY IT WILL BE VERY VERY VERY MESSY WHEN IT DOES

that is why i am so glad that we live and walk in the light and tryth of CHRIST for thru him in us we will have the strenghth .i really think our faith will be tested and prosicuted . i also think this is when the weak become the strong

i dont know guys .......all i know is my hope is in the lord

Sopherim, Your Strenght of Spirit is enlightening indeed Gal, and may the father stay close in your needs you voice in Honesty here. My heart is with you. I am presently in SC now. I was in CT under a pretty good Mortgage and the rest were going through the roof. My first move was pulling out every dime I had left in it to help prepare the ones I love and myself for whats comming alittle. You might want to consider that step Sopherim, I looked at it as just using the system that we are all under in the smartest way.
that was 2 years ago and abit premature in my calculations of events. So with my bussiness getting slower and seeing a bad moon raising so to speek. I aquired through good friends the job I got here, packed it up and walked away from it. Kinda like gave it back to Ceasar, it was his anyway LOL. Now my rent is 375/M instead of 1200/m , working abit more but its still working with peace of mind. Mainly because the choice was still mine not theres. Gas is 3.65 and climbing here so some things don`t change huh?
we are all in this together in the Lord friends, You say Messy Sopherrim? ya I can imagine how messy it may get reading about all these food riots around the world now also. I have a friend here also with two children and she just makes enough to get by and haveing child support, and fighting the gas thing too. I`m a heavy truck machanic here and the shop is almost at a standstill.
New report from AOL financial today, Ford Motor Co. is pulling all production of Pick ups and SUV`s out by the end of this year in North America. they are heading to Mexico.

well we realy should have a world news posting slot for this, so I will say goodby for now

Br Thomas....

(Nodding to Brother Thomas and Sopherim)
Yep. That is why we gotta instigate a change NOW. We MUST try to sow seeds, cuz a change is coming, and if we want it to be for the better it is up to US, NOT the powers that be, they will continue polishing the brass on the Titanic, even as it's going DOwn....

And bugger the cost, the price of doing NOTHING is far worse...