THE GNOSTIC WAY

"Sources in the Vatican denied that the Pope is holding the holy Menorah... The sources said nothing about the request of the Israeli president to prepare a list of all the other holy vessels from the Temple. The reaction of these sources raised great disappointment and anger in Israel and among the Jewish people. Historians and researchers and everyone in Israel again stressed what has been very well known since 70 CE: the Temple Menorah and the other Temple
vessels are, indeed, held by the Vatican in its hidden basements and, as in the past, they do not want to return them to the Jewish People, to Jerusalem, to be used in the Third Temple. Israel has very clear evidence, making this an undeniable fact. It is very well known that the Vatican also holds ancient Torah Scrolls, Jewish manuscripts, and other holy vessels in its basements."

Temple Mount Faithful

Intersting...what are the motives, though, for the Vatican to lie and keep the temple relics?

yes,that is interesting,if it is true,i do not doubt it. what are your sources?

sopherim

David Ben-Ariel wrote:"Sources in the Vatican denied that the Pope is holding the holy Menorah... The sources said nothing about the request of the Israeli president to prepare a list of all the other holy vessels from the Temple. The reaction of these sources raised great disappointment and anger in Israel and among the Jewish people. Historians and researchers and everyone in Israel again stressed what has been very well known since 70 CE: the Temple Menorah and the other Temple
vessels are, indeed, held by the Vatican in its hidden basements and, as in the past, they do not want to return them to the Jewish People, to Jerusalem, to be used in the Third Temple. Israel has very clear evidence, making this an undeniable fact. It is very well known that the Vatican also holds ancient Torah Scrolls, Jewish manuscripts, and other holy vessels in its basements."

Temple Mount Faithful

Everyone knows Christianity has Judaism in it's "basement"

I think it would be so awesome to dig through the vatican!

Heather wrote:I think it would be so awesome to dig through the vatican!

As a museum piece I guess it holds much interest (and harbors many dark secrets) - for archaeologists, historians, religionists, and all materialists.

I actually spent a whole week in Rome many years ago - but I never even bothered to go to see the Vatican. Funny, though, I did visit the Colosseum and many other ancient landmarks. Perhaps the Colosseum was closer to my experience than the Vatican!

PLU ~ Bob

Heather wrote:

David Ben-Ariel wrote:"Sources in the Vatican denied that the Pope is holding the holy Menorah... The sources said nothing about the request of the Israeli president to prepare a list of all the other holy vessels from the Temple. The reaction of these sources raised great disappointment and anger in Israel and among the Jewish people. Historians and researchers and everyone in Israel again stressed what has been very well known since 70 CE: the Temple Menorah and the other Temple
vessels are, indeed, held by the Vatican in its hidden basements and, as in the past, they do not want to return them to the Jewish People, to Jerusalem, to be used in the Third Temple. Israel has very clear evidence, making this an undeniable fact. It is very well known that the Vatican also holds ancient Torah Scrolls, Jewish manuscripts, and other holy vessels in its basements."

Temple Mount Faithful

Everyone knows Christianity has Judaism in it's "basement"

I think it would be so awesome to dig through the vatican!

I believe thats the other way around don't you think? Judaism has Christianity in its basement for with out Judaism there would be no other religion.

Gray Ghost wrote:

Heather wrote:Everyone knows Christianity has Judaism in it's "basement"

I think it would be so awesome to dig through the vatican!

I believe thats the other way around don't you think? Judaism has Christianity in its basement for with out Judaism there would be no other religion.

I think Heather was using the term "basement" as in 'foundation'.

Also, there were other religions existing before Judaism, e.g. Egyptian, Indian (Hindu), Persian, Greek, Chinese, etc. Judaism was not older, or in any way involved with their formation.

PLU ~ Bob

OK, guess I misread or misinterpreted the post....sorry Heather........

Also, there were other religions existing before
Judaism, e.g. Egyptian, Indian (Hindu), Persian, Greek, Chinese, etc.
Judaism was not older, or in any way involved with their formation.

I would respectfully disagree with this........but I have gotten in trouble in the past for voicing my opinion on this so I will with hold comment.

Gray Ghost wrote:OK, guess I misread or misinterpreted the post....sorry Heather........

Also, there were other religions existing before
Judaism, e.g. Egyptian, Indian (Hindu), Persian, Greek, Chinese, etc.
Judaism was not older, or in any way involved with their formation.

I would respectfully disagree with this........but I have gotten in trouble in the past for voicing my opinion on this so I will with hold comment.

Don't be affraid to voice your opinions.

But I think you will find (as far as it is possible for history to find) that these other ancient religions are at least as old as Judaism. So your statement that: "Without Judaism there would no other religion" definitely cannot be correct.

PLU ~ Bob

As said. Have gotten into trouble for it so my opinion is being with held and I will politely with draw from further comment in this thread. Appreciate the vote to express my opinion but its not worth the trouble I would cause. Thanks.

Gray Ghost, not to bring you to argument, but look up Zoroastrianism.