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Post by David Ben-Ariel on Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:16 pm

The idea that Jew-hatred was the problem of the Jew-hater and that it was the job of the Jew to "educate" the Jew-hater not to manifest that hatred - expressed in the following Talmudic dictum "he who raises his hand to bless you, bless him first; he who raises his hand to kill you, kill him first" - was truly liberating for me, who had always been taught that "good Jewish boys don't fight".

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Post by Admin on Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:30 pm

David Ben-Ariel wrote:"good Jewish boys don't fight".


This says quite a lot to me. Why not simply: "good people don't fight"!?

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what???

Post by sopherim7 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:15 am

Suspect above all thigs we are to do all we have within are power to be at peace with all men , do not let the sun go down on your anger. if your enemy thirsts give him a drink, if he hungers feed him, be ye angery but do not sin.


DAVID BEN-ARIEL i need to ask you do you have the love of god in your heart??? DO YOU READ HOLY SCRIPT? or propaganda? you display the traits of a child who does not live breath or walk in the light . i don't understand you?
it is my prayer that the father of lights would open the eyes of your understanding. that he would encamp you nite and day that he would bless your mind and heart with the wisdom of christ and reveal himself to you in a way that transforms
and creates in you the understanding of unity in christ for WE SHALL REAP AS WE SEW, blessings for obeidence and curses for disobeidence, as the commandment says thou shall not kill.

how can darkness be liberating unless one is born to serve perdition

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Re: Thoughts on Meir Kahane

Post by David Ben-Ariel on Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:57 am

sopherim7 wrote:above all thigs we are to do all we have within are power to be at peace with all men , do not let the sun go down on your anger. if your enemy thirsts give him a drink, if he hungers feed him, be ye angery but do not sin.


Yes, New Testament advice on INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS - not so much international affairs. There is a difference, as those who rightly divide the Word of truth recognize.

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Post by sopherim7 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:22 am

where do wars and strife come from? [James 4] among you? do they not come from among you?do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members? you lust and do not have you murder and cannot have you fight and do not have because you do not ask! now is not the time to fall in to the hands of the prince of the power of the air.
if all people could be children of god this would be a better place . but is not and a decision each one has to make is whom the shall serve..Christ shar shalom adonai Emanuel coming king the way the truth and the life .truth is not divided it is discerning and truth is unity in the light of god. where truth does divide is where it collides with darkend opinion. im curious, how do you practise or live your faith ? are you a messianic ,hasidic orthodox Jew? a gnostic ? i have not read where you speak about how you came to realize god in your life? do you read Torah? the bible? or any gnostic scripture?

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Post by sopherim7 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:28 am

i just looked at your page , im gonna have to camp there a bit and hopefully the phenonmonolgy will help me see what your talken about

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Re: Thoughts on Meir Kahane

Post by DarkChylde on Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:35 am

David Ben-Ariel wrote:
sopherim7 wrote:above all thigs we are to do all we have within are power to be at peace with all men , do not let the sun go down on your anger. if your enemy thirsts give him a drink, if he hungers feed him, be ye angery but do not sin.


Yes, New Testament advice on INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS - not so much international affairs. There is a difference, as those who rightly divide the Word of truth recognize.

And that would NOT include you.
Does that mean that the God of the Old Testament is NOT the God of the New?????
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Post by Admin on Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:09 am

David Ben-Ariel wrote:
sopherim7 wrote:above all thigs we are to do all we have within are power to be at peace with all men , do not let the sun go down on your anger. if your enemy thirsts give him a drink, if he hungers feed him, be ye angery but do not sin.


Yes, New Testament advice on INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS - not so much international affairs. There is a difference, as those who rightly divide the Word of truth recognize.


The ways of the carnal, unenlightened soul, whether personal, interpersonal, or international, are not the ways of God. Those that divide things should first learn how to unite things, and those who read scripture should learn to seek beyond the letter of the LAW.

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Re: Thoughts on Meir Kahane

Post by Apakhana on Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:35 am

If we are doing the Great Work and we are destroying the ego, then there will not manifest any reason to fight with one another to begin with.

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Post by DarkChylde on Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:05 pm

Spot on, Apakhana. Couldn't said it better myself.
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Re: Thoughts on Meir Kahane

Post by David Ben-Ariel on Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:40 pm

Genesis 16:12
He [Ishmael] shall be a wild man; His hand shall be against every man, And every man’s hand against him. And he shall dwell in the presence of all his [Arab] brethren.”

Peace Now: Arabs and Jews Must Go Their Separate Ways

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Post by Prism1111 on Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:04 am

David Ben-Ariel wrote:Genesis 16:12
He [Ishmael] shall be a wild man; His hand shall be against every man, And every man’s hand against him. And he shall dwell in the presence of all his [Arab] brethren.”

Peace Now: Arabs and Jews Must Go Their Separate Ways


My Friend, You are quoting from an Earthly Mortal plane, Men living in a heavily Darkened world before Christ brought the knowledge of the Kingdom that now dwells for us to seek and find from within ourselves, if we choose to only. why do most Souls such as yourself think that Everything has been writen in stone and We are on some sort of automatic Destiny Road. You see this roads High point as the past traditions of men that were not in knowledge of the kingdom at all, but only by a glimps of a choice few that spoken in Heavy Parabolic fashion of the Celestril not Mortal. If This is true and You agree with these things you say and read 100% The meaning of the Living word of God is only below these traditional writings of men for today. If God has made all men my friend , How can that be. Its an explosive contradiction you perpapatrate. Not so much for others who know, but sadly for your own soul that is held Captive to these walls. If You think you are and will be, only as much as you see and read from the past then your poverty is your own making, with a never ending cycle of Mortal traditions.

AS I saw one post here ask you about your readings of other scriptures such as Gnostic, I did not see any answer from you Ben. Are you here to share with others or Talk at others
from an egotistic radical scriptural viewpoint.
If you are a man of the world as your Journey has labled you to be and procliming with such a broad array of Subjects, Then I invite you to read and learn about some Gnostic sciptures First, then a knowledgeable debate may be achieved here at this Gnostic form. Most proclaimed exclusive Bible reciters do not have that much Courage.

What say you Ben? Are you game Rolling Eyes

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