WAS JESUS A VEGETARIAN ?
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WAS JESUS A VEGETARIAN ?
What does the Bible say about vegetarianism? Did / does God wish us to be vegetarian? What are your opinions?
Peace, Love, & Understanding
Peace, Love, & Understanding
Was Jesus A Vegetarian?
Hi Bob,
The Bible, as usual, will give both answers. As in the other thread, you list many verses in favour of flesh-free food. But if the accounts are reliable, Jesus ate the killed passover and fish. The epistles encourage you to eat whatever you find in the meat market, even if sacrificed to idols.
But it is interesting to note that a great number of spiritual ones are vegetarian to some extent or other - certainly more than in the general population. It seems to go hand in hand. Of cause I dont see this as something hard and fast, but I certainly have experienced a connection. I became more spiritually aware only after becoming vegetarian - initially mostly for health reasons. The eastern religions also place a lot of weight on this connection.
To the vegetarian spiritual, it seems strange and out of place that Jesus, the greatest of all teachers, would not be a vegetarian like themselves. Are the gospel accounts of his meat eating slanderous interpolations? Could be. But I don't think we can be certain. I can accept (admitedly with some difficulty) a non-vegetarian Jesus. But I am not a vegetarian for one reason but many. And what goes into ones mouth does not defile ones soul as much as what comes out of it. And even vegetarian food causes some degree of harm - we can just reduce it.
The good thing is that we dont need a book to tell us what is right.
Peace,
Mark
Re: WAS JESUS A VEGETARIAN ?
Well, even in the corrupted texts we have it never says that Yeshua ate meat (technically never says he ate anything, a support for the doecetist view) but he spoke against animal sacrifice, and I would assume he didn't do it or eat it. He didn't eat the dead, and I no longer do either. Tho for me I know He said it is not what you take in that defiles you but what comes out, I still think that when you get an awareness of the ONE (of the True God, the Living ONE) that is simply the effect. So many of a 'shiny' (to quote a druidic friend of mine) spirituality, ones that it is obvious they have something everyone else doesnt' have, all seem to come to that point.
To me now I see it as corpses, and I can't eat it, not grilled, or deep fried even....
To me now I see it as corpses, and I can't eat it, not grilled, or deep fried even....
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Was Jesus A Vegetarian?
In the Gospel of the Holy 12, Jesus is explicity against meat-eating,
and animal sacrafice.
(http://www.thenazareneway.com/ght_table_of_contents.htm) I believe the
fishing story of Jesus should actually be read as an allegory. The
"fish" is a symbol, and Jesus planned to make "fishers of men". As you
may have noticed, the story takes place in two different places in two
different gospels. It one gospel it happens when he meets deciples, in
another it is after his resurection. In the Gospel of the Holy 12, Jesus also
refuses the slaughtered lpassover lamb that Judus brings to dinner.
This becomes a key factor in this version of the Gospel. A vegetarian Jewish
sect, such as the Essenes, would have to make special plans for
passover dinner if they had one (they where strict vegetarians - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes#Rules.2C_customs.2C_theology_and_beliefs), therefore, Jesus could have very well been the same.
It is very possible that if Jesus did crtisize animal slaughter as is
seen in the Gospel of the Holy 12, that meat sellers and others who
practiced the slaughter (especially in pagen communities), could
interpolate whatever they wanted in the Gospels. Paul defientlly didn't
defend the animals, though he could have very well been a plant, to
destroy the "Jesus community", and some of his more Gnostic teachings
may have devalued physical life to the point where compassion to the
body seems less important. Yeshua however, explcity suggest in canoical
scriptures, as well as the Gospel of the Holy 12, that one must end the
tension between spirt and body, through unity. This would actually
glorify the physical world as one, and not seperate with Yah. The
bodies of animals and their lives become as sacred as ours.
and animal sacrafice.
(http://www.thenazareneway.com/ght_table_of_contents.htm) I believe the
fishing story of Jesus should actually be read as an allegory. The
"fish" is a symbol, and Jesus planned to make "fishers of men". As you
may have noticed, the story takes place in two different places in two
different gospels. It one gospel it happens when he meets deciples, in
another it is after his resurection. In the Gospel of the Holy 12, Jesus also
refuses the slaughtered lpassover lamb that Judus brings to dinner.
This becomes a key factor in this version of the Gospel. A vegetarian Jewish
sect, such as the Essenes, would have to make special plans for
passover dinner if they had one (they where strict vegetarians - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes#Rules.2C_customs.2C_theology_and_beliefs), therefore, Jesus could have very well been the same.
It is very possible that if Jesus did crtisize animal slaughter as is
seen in the Gospel of the Holy 12, that meat sellers and others who
practiced the slaughter (especially in pagen communities), could
interpolate whatever they wanted in the Gospels. Paul defientlly didn't
defend the animals, though he could have very well been a plant, to
destroy the "Jesus community", and some of his more Gnostic teachings
may have devalued physical life to the point where compassion to the
body seems less important. Yeshua however, explcity suggest in canoical
scriptures, as well as the Gospel of the Holy 12, that one must end the
tension between spirt and body, through unity. This would actually
glorify the physical world as one, and not seperate with Yah. The
bodies of animals and their lives become as sacred as ours.
Last edited by everything&nothin on Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:37 pm; edited 2 times in total
Re: WAS JESUS A VEGETARIAN ?
Here are some sites concerning the the Vegetarianism and the Bible:
http://www.compassionatespirit.com/was_jesus_a_vegetarian.htm
http://www.soystache.com/jesus.htm
http://www.thenazareneway.com/biblical_%20vegetarianism_denis_giron.htm
I would never claim this as absolute fact, though I imagine a true
anointed child of God would be inclined towards compassion for the
living, regardless of species. Furthermore, there have been many
metaphysical, mystical explanations of the good of being vegetarian. In
the Clementine Homilies Peter suggest that evil comes into the world
through meat. Though Jesus may have been the common meat eating Jewish
man of the times. I don't personally worship him, therefore it wouldn't
necessarily matter to me. I believe he was a righteous man, but he was
also a human being, living in a certain place and time. With that being
said, I believe our Eternal parent smiles on any compassionate choice
we make. I think God wants us to be as compassionate as we can be, and
do our best to refrain from harming others. The Torah can be summed up
in the Golden rule, and this is how the teacher Eshoo mishika (Jesus
Christ) interpreted it. The law, or more accurately the instruction, is
to practice loving kindness, and take care of your health. This will
lead to good life. If we recognize this teaching in Torah, it is easy
to see the value in the vegetarian diet, as an act of kindness and good
health. The rewards are of a spiritual, as well as physical nature.
note: I hear the "Gospel of the Holy 12" is a hoax, so the point I made in the last post using that gospel may be useless.
http://www.compassionatespirit.com/was_jesus_a_vegetarian.htm
http://www.soystache.com/jesus.htm
http://www.thenazareneway.com/biblical_%20vegetarianism_denis_giron.htm
I would never claim this as absolute fact, though I imagine a true
anointed child of God would be inclined towards compassion for the
living, regardless of species. Furthermore, there have been many
metaphysical, mystical explanations of the good of being vegetarian. In
the Clementine Homilies Peter suggest that evil comes into the world
through meat. Though Jesus may have been the common meat eating Jewish
man of the times. I don't personally worship him, therefore it wouldn't
necessarily matter to me. I believe he was a righteous man, but he was
also a human being, living in a certain place and time. With that being
said, I believe our Eternal parent smiles on any compassionate choice
we make. I think God wants us to be as compassionate as we can be, and
do our best to refrain from harming others. The Torah can be summed up
in the Golden rule, and this is how the teacher Eshoo mishika (Jesus
Christ) interpreted it. The law, or more accurately the instruction, is
to practice loving kindness, and take care of your health. This will
lead to good life. If we recognize this teaching in Torah, it is easy
to see the value in the vegetarian diet, as an act of kindness and good
health. The rewards are of a spiritual, as well as physical nature.
note: I hear the "Gospel of the Holy 12" is a hoax, so the point I made in the last post using that gospel may be useless.
Re: WAS JESUS A VEGETARIAN ?
everything¬hing wrote:Here are some sites concerning Vegetarianism and the Bible:
http://www.soystache.com/jesus.htm
note: I hear the "Gospel of the Holy 12" is a hoax, so the point I made in the last post using that gospel may be useless.
Again, the above mentioned site quotes from another fraudulent book ("The Essene Gospel of Peace," a.k.a. "The Gospel of Peace of Jesus the Christ") by Edmond Bordeaux Szekely - which the 'author' falsely claims to have discovered in the Vatican's Secret Archives.
I truly appreciate the sentiment of non-violence and non-bloodshed which these books promote, but when lies are told about their sources then they become worthless documents.
PLU ~ Bob









