IS A CONTEMPORARY SPIRITUAL MASTER NECESSARY ?

The_Passerby wrote:Actually those spiritual movements are never started by one individual -- but a group of souls. Yeshua's Disciples were not ignorant dumb fishermen, they were highly developed Beings, just as Yeshua. Yeshua would've never been able to achieve what he did, had it not been a group effort.

But was it not Saul/Paul who started what we now know as "Christianity"?

Yehoshua Himself, and his true (chosen) Apostles had nothing to do with starting a 'religion' - in fact we hardly know anything about them after their Master's death. Yehoshua Himself often condemns the ideas of hierarchical religion.

The religion that was finally propagated was formulated from Paul's teachings combined with popular myths woven together to gain worldly support - and finally, great power and wealth. The same old story of religion!

PLU ~ Bob

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The_Passerby wrote:Actually those spiritual movements are never started by one individual -- but a group of souls. Yeshua's Disciples were not ignorant dumb fishermen, they were highly developed Beings, just as Yeshua. Yeshua would've never been able to achieve what he did, had it not been a group effort.

But was it not Saul/Paul who started what we now know as "Christianity"?

Yehoshua Himself, and his true (chosen) Apostles had nothing to do with starting a 'religion' - in fact we hardly know anything about them after their Master's death. Yehoshua Himself often condemns the ideas of hierarchical religion.

The religion that was finally propagated was formulated from Paul's teachings combined with popular myths woven together to gain worldly support - and finally, great power and wealth. The same old story of religion!

PLU ~ Bob

I`m in full agreement Bob, Paul was heavily into the Mixture Himself and by his texts ones can see he chose to tell of a self illusioned vision, offen refering his followers as his, not the Christ that supposedly saved Him or struck Him blind on the road to demascus, which ever story one wishes to relate too, and by being two it again proves the falsehoods surrounding that which he claims.
Jesus of the Christ taught and instructed the 12 and more of His fathers words, never needing no man as was reverberated within the Bible. The purity of heart the disciples had was the only thing needed to attain the greatness within the Father not their IQ, or no man could enter Heaven as a child. Earthly Mind leaves much adaptation to Vanity in many ways, as we can see today in the ways we treat each other, through TV and the System in General.
PB if a group was required to achieve greatness how can this Scripture be true?
M't:7:14: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Is this not the Gnostic way we all seek within ourselves first for the Father within us, and joining up with those of like understanding we find a group only for Joy and not basis to what we know, but can enhance if allowed and sought.

Peace of Thoughts within these times, much comotion is a foot.

Bro Thomas......