Rock or Sand?

Matthew 7:21-27

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock:
25 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock.
26 And every one that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand:
27 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof.





Hello, all. I am interested in anyone's opinion/interpretation of the scripture above, especially the portions I have highlighted.

Htp

hello chuckuma, well, i think this whole chapter is reminiscent of the sermon on the mount,he is teaching using contrast,visualizations and wordage that elicit auto responses. he starts of by addressing hypocrisy in7;1 and how to recognize them along with false prophets.he teaches that we need to continuesley come before him and examine ourself s in his lite that shines from within,he warns us that if we do not ,we will become self deluded,and very insincere ,a far cry from being genuine,saying you are a servant of the most high ,but serving self and your own foolishness and desires to gain,going off in your own way not the way of what is right and good....the wise thing to do..... you gratify self and what ever it wills and ignore the consequences that were laid out before you, therefore you SHALL REAP AS YOU HAVE SEWN
[Galatians}......and then what usually wallow in self pity instead of admitting and learning from YOUR OWN MISTAKES, getting up and start rebuilding starting at the cornerstone of your very foundation........CHRIST..........that is what i have gleaned from that particular scripture.............

sopherim

We know that to put our dependance on material things, which turn to dust and blow away, is the most common (unfortunately)way, but Yeshua tried to teach us the transitory nature of such things, and how transitory we will be if that is what is important to us.

I would rephrase it this way - the one who dies with the most toys, still dies. WHat is important then, when it is only you and GOd?

These verses are some of my faves of the words of Christ, especially verse 22. I see this as a very accurate prophecy of what has happened thruout history and is STILL happening. Things that have been done in Christ's name (shudder).....

I personally think that Pat Roberson and the like will hear this from Him...

sopherim7 wrote: hello chuckuma, well, i think this whole chapter is reminiscent of the sermon on the mount,he is teaching using contrast,visualizations and wordage that elicit auto responses. he starts of by addressing hypocrisy in7;1 and how to recognize them along with false prophets.he teaches that we need to continuesley come before him and examine ourself s in his lite that shines from within,he warns us that if we do not ,we will become self deluded,and very insincere ,a far cry from being genuine,saying you are a servant of the most high ,but serving self and your own foolishness and desires to gain,going off in your own way not the way of what is right and good....the wise thing to do..... you gratify self and what ever it wills and ignore the consequences that were laid out before you, therefore you SHALL REAP AS YOU HAVE SEWN
[Galatians}......and then what usually wallow in self pity instead of admitting and learning from YOUR OWN MISTAKES, getting up and start rebuilding starting at the cornerstone of your very foundation........CHRIST..........that is what i have gleaned from that particular scripture.............

sopherim

Well said, Sopherim. Well said.

Hi Chukuma,

24 Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock:
25 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock.
26 And every one that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand:
27 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof.

looking at 25 and 27, they say the same thing.. 'change, more so devistating change'. When we build our foundation on rock (God, selflessness, unconditional love), nothing will cause this to shudder or fall. But when we cleave to the name of a dead man, then is our foundation on sand and surely will fall... for the name itself does not hold the selflessness nor unconditional love! We can not replace God with Yeshua, it was never Yeshua's intention... I believe it was the adversary's intention because of the 'sand foundation'. I always try and do the will of the father, even in the carnal existance which is soo hard to do.. 'ie keeping of the laws etc...'.. this is my interpretation anyway. It is interesting that out of all the passages of scripture this one came back to me in time of great need (I was ready to take my own life (but did not hold the gun.. more so ready to purchase it anologically speaking)). I view the adversary justifying it's existance by number of beings that are counted under it. If no being is counted, the adversary is no longer needed???

What's not to love about you ladies?! Excellent interpretations from both of you! I can't wait for others to add their 2 cents. I don't know if either of you young ladies noticed this before, but this scripture is the last statement made upon the mountain. A mountain is a high peak of earth. The highest peak of our earth is our head. Clouds/Sky/Heaven sit above a mountain. This is a plane of spiritual/higher consciousness. This is the same mountain (Mt. Sinai) that Moses spoke with God face to face. If we climb the mountain, we to will see the burning bush (our tree/body filled with light - Matthew 6:22), speak with God face to face and receive his divine commandments.

In the scripture above, Christ is telling us that one can only know him if he builds his house upon the rock. This rock is the white stone/Philosopher's stone (Revelation 2:17). It is the purified/spiritualized pineal gland. Spiritualized by the fire (spirit) that rises along the spinal column and up to the brain. When this takes place, our house is spiritualized as the fire/elecrical current cements the pineal (much like electricity coming into contact with sand, cementing it in the form of glass). Prior to this taking place, the atrophied gland has a "sandlike" consistency (i.e. the house built upon sand).

http://www.fasthealth.com/dictionary/b/brain_sand.php

Note: Once Christ came down from the mountain, the masses were able to "follow" him. Sadly, they are not able to receive the mysteries of the kingdom (speak to God face to face) and their house is built on sand (the unregenerative/atrophied pineal) because they don't seek the kingdom with in (Luke 17:21). Also notice how he immediately comes into contact with a leprous man as soon as he comes down from the mountain (spiritual consciousness). Leprosy is spiritual uncleanliness.

May you meditate (eye be single) and raise the chrism so that your house is built upon the rock!

Htp

gnostic warrior wrote:Hi Chukuma,

24 Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock:
25 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock.
26 And every one that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand:
27 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof.

looking at 25 and 27, they say the same thing.. 'change, more so devistating change'. When we build our foundation on rock (God, selflessness, unconditional love), nothing will cause this to shudder or fall. But when we cleave to the name of a dead man, then is our foundation on sand and surely will fall... for the name itself does not hold the selflessness nor unconditional love! We can not replace God with Yeshua, it was never Yeshua's intention... I believe it was the adversary's intention because of the 'sand foundation'. I always try and do the will of the father, even in the carnal existance which is soo hard to do.. 'ie keeping of the laws etc...'.. this is my interpretation anyway. It is interesting that out of all the passages of scripture this one came back to me in time of great need (I was ready to take my own life (but did not hold the gun.. more so ready to purchase it anologically speaking)). I view the adversary justifying it's existance by number of beings that are counted under it. If no being is counted, the adversary is no longer needed???

Reply:

Hey, GW. Long time no see (like me)..lol..You are so right to state that the sand is thaf a dead man (i.e. carnal existence). I am happy that you didn't purchase the gun friend; otherwise, this world would be missing out on quite the warrior!


Htp

Chukuma-Wow! That just opened up an entire universe of thought about that, I just love your interpretations, and your analogies- much food for thought, munch munch. I think I understand that scripture eeven more now...



Gnostic Warrior- Very true. There are a few scriptures where Yeshua even says "the Father is greater than I," and such, and even the base idea of the Trinity is really a mistranslation when the scriptures went from Greek to Latin (known as the Johannite Comma). I also went thru the entire realm of self-destruction, I think that many gnostics do....
Excellent post.

DarkChylde wrote:Chukuma-Wow! That just opened up an entire universe of thought about that, I just love your interpretations, and your analogies- much food for thought, munch munch. I think I understand that scripture eeven more now...



Gnostic Warrior- Very true. There are a few scriptures where Yeshua even says "the Father is greater than I," and such, and even the base idea of the Trinity is really a mistranslation when the scriptures went from Greek to Latin (known as the Johannite Comma). I also went thru the entire realm of self-destruction, I think that many gnostics do....
Excellent post.

Reply:

It warms my spirit that you are blessed by it.

Htp

Chukuma wrote:Matthew 7:21-27

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock:
25 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock.
26 And every one that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand:
27 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof.





Hello, all. I am interested in anyone's opinion/interpretation of the scripture above, especially the portions I have highlighted.

Htp

Shalama and Blessings Chukuma,

I see that it has much to do with chosing what you do, you can either be instructed and have a stong foundation or not be instructed and have a weak foundation.

Hear good words and practice them yourself. If we at instructed to help the poor, then instead of giving money buy them some supples and something to eat.

Practice what you are instructed and let it be a measure of your wisdom.

All together the wise man is a man who listens and does what he thinks that it is wise to do.

Kindest Regards and Warmest Affections

Andre