Christians don't eat pork

Actually, Christians who believe the Bible don't eat pork either...

Unclean traditional Christianity teaches the religious lie that Jesus "did away with" the dietary laws, sinning against both God and man (1 John 2:4; Matt 5:17-20). Don't you believe them! Reject such sloppy swill!

Unclean Christianity vs. Peter's Vision

David Ben-Ariel wrote:Actually, Christians who believe the Bible don't eat pork either...

Unclean traditional Christianity teaches the religious lie that Jesus "did away with" the dietary laws, sinning against both God and man (1 John 2:4; Matt 5:17-20). Don't you believe them! Reject such sloppy swill!

Unclean Christianity vs. Peter's Vision

Well, David, people who have actually EXPERIENCED and KNOW God, do not eat the flesh of any animal whatsoever!

PLU ~ Bob

i understand the concept of kosher and non kosher. pearsonall i do sometimes eat meat i always have but of no choice of mine and im not really sure when, why and how it happened but most all meat gradually began to REPULSE me.
peters vison of the sheet was not about meat it was about the judeisers who were having legalistic issues with gentiles.
the law was not given to them ,the were given to old test and the moasic covent between GOD and them .thru the course of time the MEN who were the keepers of the law added to the 10 commandmentsand just like alot of christianity it became a dogmatic religion of men . ENTER JESUS, each commandment has deeper meaning that the people did not and could not grasp. like when JESUS healed ON THE SABBATH what commandment does that breach , who had a problem with it NOT GOD< the jews did if GOD did not whant JESUS to heal on the sabbath he would NOT have had the power to do it. TRUE not one jot or tittle shall pass from it, for he came not to abolish it{the law}but to teach it. because obviousley thousands of years of the disobeidence of the yearsof the JEWS proved that man cannot nor will they ever be able to live up to it , nomatter what there " religion" is or perfectley they think they can follow it.there are agreat many who can follow the rules of there particular sects of religion , who will not enter the kingdom of god because they did not recieve it in the days of there life on earth, they were to busy following the rules to hear what god was and is telling them now

1 Timothy 4

1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry [celibate priesthood], and commanding to abstain from foods [like only eating fish on Fridays or insisting on vegetarianism] which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth [God's Word is truth]. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

The Word of God, specifically the two witnesses of Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14, reveal what creatures our Great Creator God has sanctified, they testify what God has set apart as acceptable, they educate us about what's fit for human consumption and what edible abominations should never disgrace any Bible-believers' menu.

David Ben-Ariel wrote:1 Timothy 4

1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry [celibate priesthood], and commanding to abstain from foods [like only eating fish on Fridays or insisting on vegetarianism] which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth [God's Word is truth]. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

The Word of God, specifically the two witnesses of Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14, reveal what creatures our Great Creator God has sanctified, they testify what God has set apart as acceptable, they educate us about what's fit for human consumption and what edible abominations should never disgrace any Bible-believers' menu.

Firstly, the letter to TIMOTHY, which you quote from, is most suspect ~ it is considered by practically ALL reliable scholars to be pseudepigraphical!

Perhaps, if you want to comment on something substantial, try THIS: http://gnosis.forumotion.com/food-f24/does-spirituality-require-vegetarianism-t27.htm

PLU ~ Bob

this is about depature from fath,also the teachers responsibility to study and exboundand apply the word of GOD without hypocrasy. timothey was a student of paul raised by his g-ma and mom who wereealy church leaders . and i believe in 4;3 it says every creature is good, and nothing is to be refused IF it is recieved with thanks giving. being nourished in the words of faith.he is correcting false teachers who were teaching with pretend divine inspiration
[4;2}saying to people they should abstain from marriage as well,they commanded them toabstainfrom foods GOD created to be recievd. god made adam and eve and said be fruitfull and MULTIPLY. also i believe god taught them BASIC HYGENE .with all the washing in o.t. times they were all purification rituals.in tim it also says to reject these old wives tailshe was correcting those who abanded GODS WORD not ruleswhenever it was written i will say that it is a pauline letter NOT pennend by timotheyat about 64 a.d. there is more script on that subject of food like its not what goes into a man that defiles him its what comes out, the point any way is gentilews are NOT jews I as a follower of the way of christ . am not asked or commanded to also become a follower of judaic principles .paul calls peopl who tried to enforce jewishpractises judiesiers, and falst teachers who lookes to trap men .being in christ sets you free from the law thats what irratated paul so much these teachers were trying and soms succedind of trapping what christ made free
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about the typing and spelling i had to hurry. about hygene again ,notice the animals god chosa to be abomniations are ones that lay in there own defication

In reality, Man Can Not Be Defiled, It is God's Will that His Children are Pure.

Admin wrote:

David Ben-Ariel wrote:Actually, Christians who believe the Bible don't eat pork either...

Unclean traditional Christianity teaches the religious lie that Jesus "did away with" the dietary laws, sinning against both God and man (1 John 2:4; Matt 5:17-20). Don't you believe them! Reject such sloppy swill!

Unclean Christianity vs. Peter's Vision

Well, David, people who have actually EXPERIENCED and KNOW God, do not eat the flesh of any animal whatsoever!

PLU ~ Bob

One can't know God until they Know Thy Self, their Authentic Being of Light (pre-existent Soul) but I agree with you though in regards not eating flesh. This is very true.

According to the 'old laws' laid down in Leviticus, I can sell my daughters into slavery as well, glad the 'christians' don't do that either.


Christ was never said to have eaten meat.

I don't eat the dead, not even grilled or deep fried... Like Sopherim, I began to see ALL of it as corpses, and was disgusted.

Admin wrote:

David Ben-Ariel wrote:1 Timothy 4

1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry [celibate priesthood], and commanding to abstain from foods [like only eating fish on Fridays or insisting on vegetarianism] which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth [God's Word is truth]. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

The Word of God, specifically the two witnesses of Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14, reveal what creatures our Great Creator God has sanctified, they testify what God has set apart as acceptable, they educate us about what's fit for human consumption and what edible abominations should never disgrace any Bible-believers' menu.

Firstly, the letter to TIMOTHY, which you quote from, is most suspect ~ it is considered by practically ALL reliable scholars to be pseudepigraphical!

You're free to believe that (or enslaved), but at least those who know that the Bible - including the letters to Timothy - are inspired by our Great Creator God, who profess to believe it is the Word of God, should live accordingly, eh?

DarkChylde wrote:


Christ was never said to have eaten meat.

Whoever said that didn't know what they're talking about or are just plain liars. Yeshua kept the Passover - which includes eating lamb.

I don't eat the dead, not even grilled or deep fried... Like Sopherim, I began to see ALL of it as corpses, and was disgusted.

That's your prerogative. I was a lacto-ovula vegetarian for 3 years. Now I eat what meats God has designated as "clean" - fit for human consumption.

David Ben-Ariel wrote:Actually, Christians who believe the Bible don't eat pork either...

Unclean traditional Christianity teaches the religious lie that Jesus "did away with" the dietary laws, sinning against both God and man (1 John 2:4; Matt 5:17-20). Don't you believe them! Reject such sloppy swill!

Unclean Christianity vs. Peter's Vision

Yup, agreed. To an extent.
Satan believes the bible, but yet he is. It's more of SELF LOVE, promoting humanism, being involved with illusions in place of universal truth that we believe lies.

People, those who know we should work on our walk, and become more obedient to Yah the Father, being "Christ-Like" - will try to keep the dietary laws in addition to the other proscribed walks in the Way such as communion and passover.

I think Passover is extremely Important, AS much as CHRIST - if you get into it VERY deeply at all. Why? Christ OUR Passover. Two things that are the same are the same and related at levels we comprehend not in a mere physical realm.

ChaChynga

Admin wrote:

David Ben-Ariel wrote:Actually, Christians who believe the Bible don't eat pork either...

Unclean traditional Christianity teaches the religious lie that Jesus "did away with" the dietary laws, sinning against both God and man (1 John 2:4; Matt 5:17-20). Don't you believe them! Reject such sloppy swill!

Unclean Christianity vs. Peter's Vision

Well, David, people who have actually EXPERIENCED and KNOW God, do not eat the flesh of any animal whatsoever!

PLU ~ Bob

That's not so:

Declared God the Lord that the acceptable sacrifices were animal.

Deuteronomy
14 10 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.

Read further:
Of all clean birds ye shall eat.
Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother' milk.

Ezra
7 17 That thou mayest buy speedily with this money bullocks, rams, lambs, with their meat offerings and their drink offerings, and offer them upon the altar of the house of your God which is in Jerusalem.

Animals are needed for the body of mankind to function. Straight Veggie diets are usually prone to illness, now your god who promotes illness must not be the Loving God who Promotes blessings.

I'm not beating you up unless you want me to, then I'm more than happy to do so. Just don't consider me your enemy for telling the truth to you.

Chachynga

sopherim7 wrote: the jews did if GOD did not whant JESUS to heal on the sabbath he would NOT have had the power to do it. TRUE not one jot or tittle shall pass from it, for he came not to abolish it{the law}but to teach it. because obviousley thousands of years of the disobeidence of the yearsof the JEWS proved that man cannot nor will they ever be able to live up to it , nomatter what there " religion"

Those men had nothing to do with the "Jews" per se.

Those WERE his enemy's.

They are not Israelites, or at least for the most part they were not. Those were the Edomites i.e. the modern day jews.

The Israelites of Old, were composed of Both Jews and Non-Jews (all Hebrews and all Jacobites i.e. all Israel), they were around Non-Israelites i.e. non-seedline but often times still within the covenant protections per se. The Israelites in DISPERSION were "Gentiles" and they in part mixed or dwelt among the heathen Gentiles. The people Christ sent to preach to were Gentiles who were Israel in dispersion, not specifically anything OTHER than his sheep i.e. "scattered Israel"

These people in the New Covenant have the Law wrote in their heart. Other's do not. Others can Join, but all must be called by God.

It's all about Love, and part of Love is the RESTORATION tht God promises in the process or least in the end of things.

Hope you understand

Chachynga