THE GNOSTIC WAY

Gray Ghost wrote:If you look in the New KJV it is mentioned seven times, in the Old KJV 4 times......

These additional insertions are just that - later scribal notes added in translation (for clarity). The original texts mention the term only a maximum of three times, i.e. Acts 11:26; 26:28; & 1 Peter 4:16.

PLU ~ Bob

hi GRAY GHOST ....... i read the new king james bible , i like it alot
and yes Bob you are probley right on who coined that term, but something is telling me it may have also been a term given by the pharisees after the death of Christ

sopherim

sopherim7 wrote: hi GRAY GHOST ....... i read the new king james bible , i like it alot
and yes Bob you are probley right on who coined that term, but something is telling me it may have also been a term given by the pharisees after the death of Christ

sopherim

I think the term 'CHRIST', being itself Greek, would not have occurred to the Hebrews; but even if it did, would not have been used of Yehoshua by his religious opponents (as it does mean the same as 'Messianists').

However, Paul was indeed preaching to the (Greek speaking) gentiles, who would have understood the term (Christian).

PLU ~ Bob

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sopherim7 wrote: hi GRAY GHOST ....... i read the new king james bible , i like it alot
and yes Bob you are probley right on who coined that term, but something is telling me it may have also been a term given by the pharisees after the death of Christ

sopherim

I think the term 'CHRIST', being itself Greek, would not have occurred to the Hebrews; but even if it did, would not have been used of Yehoshua by his religious opponents (as it does mean the same as 'Messianists').

However, Paul was indeed preaching to the (Greek speaking) gentiles, who would have understood the term (Christian).

PLU ~ Bob

Bob I understand that. My point was that Jesus had never heard the term "Christian" before his death on the cross. It is not mentioned in the Old Testament at all that I know of. But I see what you are saying and I agree.

Yea,... Bob that makes sense ,i was not even thinking about the word origin,which is unusual for me

sopherim

I have a Pehitte resotrative scriptures I like to use, twas reproduced (as close as can be) from the original Greek back to Aramaic.

However, Much was lost when the scriptures went from Greek to Latin to English, so few know of the descrepancies.....

But what it means now.... (shudder) Reminds me of where Yehsua said 'much would be done in My name, but I will say I never you..."

Chukuma wrote:Revelation 7:4 & Revelation 14:1. Who do you think they are?

Shalama and Blessings Chukuma,

Why do you spend time on Relevations?

I dont!

Kindest Regards and Warmest Affections

Andre

Paul was indeed preaching to the (Greek speaking) gentiles

Bob, Paul himself was Greek? Was he not? Or am I mistaking him for some one else....

Gray Ghost wrote:

Paul was indeed preaching to the (Greek speaking) gentiles

Bob, Paul himself was Greek? Was he not? Or am I mistaking him for some one else....

No, Saul/St.Paul was a Jew born and brought up in Tarsus (in modern day Turkey - then a Greek speaking Roman province). He also inherited Roman citizenship from birth (probably due to his parents doing some service for the Empire - or perhaps from bribing a Roman official?). We are told he was originally training to join the Sanhedrin, so he would have spoken Hebrew/Aramaic as well as his native/childhood Greek.

PLU ~ Bob

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Gray Ghost wrote:

Paul was indeed preaching to the (Greek speaking) gentiles

Bob, Paul himself was Greek? Was he not? Or am I mistaking him for some one else....

No, Saul/St.Paul was a Jew born and brought up in Tarsus (in modern day Turkey - then a Greek speaking Roman province). He also inherited Roman citizenship from birth (probably due to his parents doing some service for the Empire - or perhaps from bribing a Roman official?). We are told he was originally training to join the Sanhedrin, so he would have spoken Hebrew/Aramaic as well as his native/childhood Greek.

PLU ~ Bob

One of the Apostles was Greek I remember reading it some where hmmmmmmmmmmm......don't know, maybe a figament of my mind or something.........

Gray Ghost wrote:One of the Apostles was Greek I remember reading it some where hmmmmmmmmmmm......don't know, maybe a figament of my mind or something.........

None of the 'Apostles' (neither the original 12, nor Paul - who I do not personally include as an Apostle) were Greek.

Perhaps you are thinking of Luke - the author of that Gospel. Luke was a Gentile physician living in Troas, a city on the coast of the Aegean Sea, where, perhaps, Paul first met him and converted him to Christianity.

PLU ~ Bob

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Gray Ghost wrote:One of the Apostles was Greek I remember reading it some where hmmmmmmmmmmm......don't know, maybe a figament of my mind or something.........

None of the 'Apostles' (neither the original 12, nor Paul - who I do not personally include as an Apostle) were Greek.

Perhaps you are thinking of Luke - the author of that Gospel. Luke was a Gentile physician living in Troas, a city on the coast of the Aegean Sea, where, perhaps, Paul first met him and converted him to Christianity.

PLU ~ Bob

Thats it! Bob you nailed it Luke was the one I was thinking of.........

Manichaean Seek wrote:

Chukuma wrote:Revelation 7:4 & Revelation 14:1. Who do you think they are?

Shalama and Blessings Chukuma,

Why do you spend time on Relevations?

I dont!

Kindest Regards and Warmest Affections

Andre

Reply:

Hey, MS. Your post above is a head scratcher. What issue do you have with my posts regarding Revelation? And can you elaborate on why it is that you don't spend time on the book?



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