Revelation 12:1

Does anyone have a take on this verse:

"And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." (Revelations 12:1)

Reply:

Hi, ABS. Astrologically speaking, the woman appears in heaven (sky). This is a reference to Virgo (September). The moon is at her feet because it is leaving the conjunction of the sun. She is the ruling sign..queen of heaven, appropriately crowned by 12 stars, representing the 12 heavenly signs of the zodiac.


Mystically speaking, when the 3rd eye is opened, the virgin appears in the mind (heaven) of the initiate. She is clothed by the masculine energy (sun) and raised by the union of the feminine energy (moon). The mastery off Christ consciousness is the crowning of the 12 stars. The heavenly man is represented by the 12 signs of the zodiac.



Clement of Alexandria:

the path of souls to ascension lies through the twelve signs of the zodiac," and the church festivals today are based, not upon historical dates in connection with the outstanding religious figures to which they refer, but upon the times and the seasons.”


Htp

Chukuma wrote:

Does anyone have a take on this verse:

"And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." (Revelations 12:1)

Reply:

Hi, ABS. Astrologically speaking, the woman appears in heaven (sky). This is a reference to Virgo (September). The moon is at her feet because it is leaving the conjunction of the sun. She is the ruling sign..queen of heaven, appropriately crowned by 12 stars, representing the 12 heavenly signs of the zodiac.


Mystically speaking, when the 3rd eye is opened, the virgin appears in the mind (heaven) of the initiate. She is clothed by the masculine energy (sun) and raised by the union of the feminine energy (moon). The mastery off Christ consciousness is the crowning of the 12 stars. The heavenly man is represented by the 12 signs of the zodiac.



Clement of Alexandria:

the path of souls to ascension lies through the twelve signs of the zodiac," and the church festivals today are based, not upon historical dates in connection with the outstanding religious figures to which they refer, but upon the times and the seasons.”


Htp

Hi Chukuma

That is a really great interpretation ~ fantastic!

Do I understand you correctly to say that when the third eye is opened, and we obtain the Mastery of 'Christ' consciousness, then we will be able to covercome the 'lower' psychological influences of the physical universe - i.e. that influence which the planets and stars have over us?

PLU

PS ~ can you give me the book and passage reference to your quote from Clement ~ thanks.

Hi Chukuma

That is a really great interpretation ~ fantastic!

Do I understand you correctly to say that when the third eye is opened, and we obtain the Mastery of 'Christ' consciousness, then we will be able to covercome the 'lower' psychological influences of the physical universe - i.e. that influence which the planets and stars have over us?

PLU

PS ~ can you give me the book and passage reference to your quote from Clement ~ thanks.
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Reply:

Thank you ABS! Yes, you're understanding me perfectly.

Clement's Stromata. Book 5 Chapter 14. I believe he is quoting Plato who is referencing Zoroaster, but this belief superceeds the Zoroastrian religion.

Htp

Chukuma wrote:Thank you ABS! Yes, you're understanding me perfectly.

Clement's Stromata. Book 5 Chapter 14. I believe he is quoting Plato who is referencing Zoroaster, but this belief superceeds the Zoroastrian religion.

Htp

Thanks Chukuma. I have always admired Clement's work. I believe he was actually a Catholic Saint until quite recently, when he was apparently demoted for being considered too unorthodox (i.e. too Gnostic)!

Very sad!

PLU

Thanks Chukuma. I have always admired Clement's work. I believe he was actually a Catholic Saint until quite recently, when he was apparently demoted for being considered too unorthodox (i.e. too Gnostic)!

Very sad!

PLU
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You're welcome. I always thought it funny that he was schoooled in Alexandria & the scriptures used by orthodoxy are also out of Alexandria & yet Gnostics are the heretics! ..lol To bad for Orthodoxy that Coptic Christianity exists.

Chukuma

These astrological interpretations of Biblical passages you have been sharing are very interesting, and completely new to me (as I said before, I have never studied this subject). Do you have any other really important (i.e. relating to Gnosis) passages which you can share with us here?

Again, thanks for your input.

Bob

Chukuma wrote:Hey, ABS. There are numerous scriptures. I am still unearthing them, but the entire book of Revelation as as well as the gospels are definately filled with such knowledge. This is why I stated that Jesus of the gospels is not a gnostic but IS gnosis.

Perhaps I can find some time to layout the book of Revelation as I understand it? Its harder to come up with these scriptures off of the top of my head than it is when others simply post them. A lot of the seemingly obscure scripture(s) can be explained astrologically. And that which uses astrological terms is of oral transmission, having a mystical meaning. I will try my best to share what I know.

Have you ever considered writing a book on the subject?

PLU

Have you ever considered writing a book on the subject?

PLU
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Such a work would be an enormous undertaking. I would love to do so, but wouldn't enjoy taking on that task unless I had the entire bible interpreted.

This will not stop me from sharing what I do know. I look forward to sharing what I know as well as learning from others on this site.

Htp.

Knowing it would be an enormous understaking, I also think you should write a book.

I'd wanna read it!

DarkChylde wrote:Knowing it would be an enormous understaking, I also think you should write a book.

I'd wanna read it!

Yes, I'm sure that many people would want to read it, and I am sure my publisher would be eager to publish it.

PLU

Chukuma wrote:

Does anyone have a take on this verse:

"And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." (Revelations 12:1)

Reply:

Hi, ABS. Astrologically speaking, the woman appears in heaven (sky). This is a reference to Virgo (September). The moon is at her feet because it is leaving the conjunction of the sun. She is the ruling sign..queen of heaven, appropriately crowned by 12 stars, representing the 12 heavenly signs of the zodiac.


Mystically speaking, when the 3rd eye is opened, the virgin appears in the mind (heaven) of the initiate. She is clothed by the masculine energy (sun) and raised by the union of the feminine energy (moon). The mastery off Christ consciousness is the crowning of the 12 stars. The heavenly man is represented by the 12 signs of the zodiac.



Clement of Alexandria:

the path of souls to ascension lies through the twelve signs of the zodiac," and the church festivals today are based, not upon historical dates in connection with the outstanding religious figures to which they refer, but upon the times and the seasons.”


Htp

Twelve stars = !2 tribes
She's not queen of heaven that's satanic, she is Israel Clothed In Christ. Israel is UNDER her feet and Christ Has Rule as the Head. In Genesis, Jacob clearly understood that he was the sun, his wife was the moon, and his twelve children were the stars. This is the root of the nation of Israel.

Revelation of John
12 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Her SEED who KEEP Yahweah's Commands i.e. Christians in general, and Israel that Jacob of the Old, united as a remnant in the end times.

awesome

Jacob clearly understood that he was the sun,

This is shown on the qabalah's Tree of Life where the Middle Pillar, Tif'eret represents the Patriarch Jacob, as well as the Sun, the Kingdom of Heaven, righteousness(i think) and Harmony

Cha_Chynga wrote:

Chukuma wrote:

Does anyone have a take on this verse:

"And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." (Revelations 12:1)

Reply:

Hi, ABS. Astrologically speaking, the woman appears in heaven (sky). This is a reference to Virgo (September). The moon is at her feet because it is leaving the conjunction of the sun. She is the ruling sign..queen of heaven, appropriately crowned by 12 stars, representing the 12 heavenly signs of the zodiac.


Mystically speaking, when the 3rd eye is opened, the virgin appears in the mind (heaven) of the initiate. She is clothed by the masculine energy (sun) and raised by the union of the feminine energy (moon). The mastery off Christ consciousness is the crowning of the 12 stars. The heavenly man is represented by the 12 signs of the zodiac.



Clement of Alexandria:

the path of souls to ascension lies through the twelve signs of the zodiac," and the church festivals today are based, not upon historical dates in connection with the outstanding religious figures to which they refer, but upon the times and the seasons.”


Htp

Twelve stars = !2 tribes
She's not queen of heaven that's satanic, she is Israel Clothed In Christ. Israel is UNDER her feet and Christ Has Rule as the Head. In Genesis, Jacob clearly understood that he was the sun, his wife was the moon, and his twelve children were the stars. This is the root of the nation of Israel.

Revelation of John
12 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Her SEED who KEEP Yahweah's Commands i.e. Christians in general, and Israel that Jacob of the Old, united as a remnant in the end times.

Reply:

Although the scriptures are "Jewish," the concepts within them long precede "Jewry" and are not satanic. Unfortunately, man has a tendency to demonize that which disagrees with his cultural pride/ego. An indepth and unbiased study of comparative religions will reveal this truth to whomever is interested. Below are the 12 stones/birthstones on the breastplate of the HP/12 tribes of Israel/12 signs of the zodiac..




Hebrew ---------- Birth Stone-------Color---------Zodiac--------- Tribe

1. Odem	Sard	Red	Lion	Judah
2. Pitdah	Topaz	Tan	Crab	Issachar
3. Bareqeth	Chrysoprase	Yellow Green	Ram	Zebulon
4. Nophek	Jacinth	Red Black	Scorpion	Dan
5. Sappiyr	Chalcedony	Light Blue	Maiden	Naphtali
6. Yahalom	Jasper	Orange	Archer	Gad
7. Leshem	Lapis Lazuli	Royal Blue	Water Bearer	Reuben
8. Shebuw	Emerald Quartz	Green	Sea Goat	Simeon
9. Aclamah	Amethyst	Purple	Fishes	Levi
10. Tarshish	Chrysolite	Yellow	Scales	Asher
11. Shoham	Beryl	White	Bull	Joseph
12. Jashepheh	Sardonyx	Red & White	Twins	Benjamin

Htp