DISCIPLE & DISCIPLINE

DISCIPLINE
dis·ci·pline [díssəplin]
noun (plural dis·ci·plines)
1. training to ensure proper behavior: the practice or methods of teaching and enforcing acceptable patterns of behavior
2. order and control: a controlled orderly state, especially in a class of schoolchildren
3. calm controlled behavior: the ability to behave in a controlled and calm way even in a difficult or stressful situation
4. conscious control over lifestyle: mental self-control used in directing or changing behavior, learning something, or training for something
5. EDUCATION activity or subject: a subject or field of activity, e.g. an academic subject
6. punishment: punishment designed to teach somebody obedience
7. CHRISTIANITY church rules: the system of rules used in a religious denomination or order

verb (past and past participle dis·ci·plined, present participle dis·ci·plin·ing, 3rd person present singular dis·ci·plines)
1. vr make yourself do something regularly: to make yourself act or work in a controlled or systematic way
2. vt punish somebody: to punish somebody as a way of enforcing obedience
3. vt teach somebody obedience: to teach somebody to obey rules or to behave in an acceptable way

[13th century. Directly or via French < Latin disciplina "instruction given to a learner" < discipulus (see disciple)]

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Although the term 'disciple' comes from the word 'discipline', I am amazed at the number of (religious) people who say that they wish to follow God in their own way. Of course, people tend to desire what they personally percieve to be freedom. But what is freedom? Many Masters have said the Truth will make one free - REALLY FREE! But to gain this Truth and Freedom require REAL DISCIPLINE. But it seems that many are not prepared to submit themselves (their ego) to a genuine Spiritual Master, and become a true DISCIPLE of THE WAY.

PLU

Admin wrote:Although the term 'disciple' comes from the word 'discipline', I am amazed at the number of (religious) people who say that they wish to follow God in their own way. Of course, people tend to desire what they personally percieve to be freedom. But what is freedom? Many Masters have said the Truth will make one free - REALLY FREE! But to gain this Truth and Freedom require REAL DISCIPLINE. But it seems that many are not prepared to submit themselves (their ego) to a genuine Spiritual Master, and become a true DISCIPLE of THE WAY.

PLU

It's simply self-will, fantasy and lack of Common Sense that people want to understand/follow everything in "their own way".

Just see where "their own way" leads them. Usually not to anything great. There are rules to follow, no matter if you want to be a shoemaker, a chef, a successful business man (unless you're father is Rockefeller) or enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

People's subjectivity is their prison and their slavery. But always being "in the right" gives a certain comfort that most people don't want to sacrifice when it comes to metaphysical matters.

BB

BelzeBob wrote:It's simply self-will, fantasy and lack of Common Sense that people want to understand/follow everything in "their own way".

Just see where "their own way" leads them. Usually not to anything great. There are rules to follow, no matter if you want to be a shoemaker, a chef, a successful business man (unless you're father is Rockefeller) or enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

People's subjectivity is their prison and their slavery. But always being "in the right" gives a certain comfort that most people don't want to sacrifice when it comes to metaphysical matters.

BB

Yes BB, I agree. Is there no one else who has any opinions on the subject of being a 'DISCIPLE'?

PLU